Are you not not going to watch the Oscars this year?

[tree_]

"violence is illegal, speech is not" is not "data" Tree

It informs one to conclude that the person speaking was not wrong, but the person being violent was.

a Nazi is speaking hate at a Nazi rally

he gets punched and he's no longer able to chat his shit

the Nazi was violent, the person punching him did a cool thing

If it is hate speech and was inciting violence, then I can see this becoming more debatable. The motives are clearer in that scenario. When it comes to a comedian like Chris Rock, in this instance, it's just incomparable.

no, ableism is hate speech

But you don't know it was ableism. She felt offended for such reasons, yes? But do you really believe Chris Rock was actively trying to hurt her feelings? You said before that it doesn't matter what his intentions were. Therefore, her feelings trump all, yes?

she was the butt of the joke, so that's the easiest "yes" of my life

He said "Hi, Love you" and compared her to a hot character in an old movie, because they both have short hair... ohhh burrnnnnn

[Ms Harmless]

never thought grover furr’s unimpeachables would get dragged into this

The kind of discourse we're witnessing on this page is neo-Stalinist, which is good, actually.

my position is communist-adjacent; Stalinist? no

Your position is not "communist-adjacent" and this is a MLG joke that was not meant for you.

well, it is, but OK Mickey

It absolutely is not. Words have distinct meanings and being vaguely on the left in the interminable online culture wars--even declaring one's self "not a liberal," though the evidence for that is suspect--does not make one "adjacent" to a discrete and historically specific political position.

"I've only ever seen you in a few discussions and they were all online! there's no way you've thought about your politics beyond what my own eyes have seen!"

[Anders]

Violence in all of its forms is poisonous and destructive. There is no place for violence in a world of love and kindness.

wtf world do you live in?

This is a quote from Will Smith.

[Ms Harmless]

"violence is illegal, speech is not" is not "data" Tree

It informs one to conclude that the person speaking was not wrong, but the person being violent was.

a Nazi is speaking hate at a Nazi rally

he gets punched and he's no longer able to chat his shit

the Nazi was violent, the person punching him did a cool thing

If it is hate speech and was inciting violence, then I can see this becoming more debatable. The motives are clearer in that scenario. When it comes to a comedian like Chris Rock, in this instance, it's just incomparable.

no, ableism is hate speech

But you don't know it was ableism. She felt offended for such reasons, yes? But do you really believe Chris Rock was actively trying to hurt her feelings? You said before that it doesn't matter what his intentions were. Therefore, her feelings trump all, yes?

she was the butt of the joke, so that's the easiest "yes" of my life

He said "Hi, Love you" and compared her to a hot character in an old movie, because they both have short hair... ohhh burrnnnnn

and back to square one

this was fun Tree

[tree_]

"violence is illegal, speech is not" is not "data" Tree

It informs one to conclude that the person speaking was not wrong, but the person being violent was.

a Nazi is speaking hate at a Nazi rally

he gets punched and he's no longer able to chat his shit

the Nazi was violent, the person punching him did a cool thing

If it is hate speech and was inciting violence, then I can see this becoming more debatable. The motives are clearer in that scenario. When it comes to a comedian like Chris Rock, in this instance, it's just incomparable.

no, ableism is hate speech

But you don't know it was ableism. She felt offended for such reasons, yes? But do you really believe Chris Rock was actively trying to hurt her feelings? You said before that it doesn't matter what his intentions were. Therefore, her feelings trump all, yes?

she was the butt of the joke, so that's the easiest "yes" of my life

He said "Hi, Love you" and compared her to a hot character in an old movie, because they both have short hair... ohhh burrnnnnn

and back to square one

this was fun Tree

If what Chris Rock did was ableism or a hate crime, everyone must be a Nazi. Looneyville.

[Ms Harmless]

[The Argonaut]

Don't call names, tree. I will ban you

[tree_]

Don't call names, tree. I will ban you

I didn't... looneyville is a place

[warehouse]

Violence in all of its forms is poisonous and destructive. There is no place for violence in a world of love and kindness.

wtf world do you live in?

This is a quote from Will Smith.

after talking to his lawyer?

[Mickey]

never thought grover furr’s unimpeachables would get dragged into this

The kind of discourse we're witnessing on this page is neo-Stalinist, which is good, actually.

my position is communist-adjacent; Stalinist? no

Your position is not "communist-adjacent" and this is a MLG joke that was not meant for you.

well, it is, but OK Mickey

It absolutely is not. Words have distinct meanings and being vaguely on the left in the interminable online culture wars--even declaring one's self "not a liberal," though the evidence for that is suspect--does not make one "adjacent" to a discrete and historically specific political position.

"I've only ever seen you in a few discussions and they were all online! there's no way you've thought about your politics beyond what my own eyes have seen!"

Your politics beyond this thread are entirely irrelevant.

[Ms Harmless]

wow imagine if throwing slurs at people was a bannable offence, how weird and draconian that would be!

[tree_]

Yeah, if you have different opinions than what you've typed on here, how could any of us possibly know?

[Mickey]

Violence in all of its forms is poisonous and destructive. There is no place for violence in a world of love and kindness.

wtf world do you live in?

This is a quote from Will Smith.

after talking to his lawyer?

Don't be absurd, he has more than one lawyer.

[The Argonaut]

Don't call names, tree. I will ban you

I didn't... looneyville is a place

Reign it in or face my wrath

[Ms Harmless]

never thought grover furr’s unimpeachables would get dragged into this

The kind of discourse we're witnessing on this page is neo-Stalinist, which is good, actually.

my position is communist-adjacent; Stalinist? no

Your position is not "communist-adjacent" and this is a MLG joke that was not meant for you.

well, it is, but OK Mickey

It absolutely is not. Words have distinct meanings and being vaguely on the left in the interminable online culture wars--even declaring one's self "not a liberal," though the evidence for that is suspect--does not make one "adjacent" to a discrete and historically specific political position.

"I've only ever seen you in a few discussions and they were all online! there's no way you've thought about your politics beyond what my own eyes have seen!"

Your politics beyond this thread are entirely irrelevant.

I made a statement about where I stood politically as a whole, so no, they aren't; I get called an evil commie a lot, I thought that was what you were doing -- I was wrong; I'm not sure what else you want for the observations and records you're drawing up about me

[Malloy]

muddying the waters of communist discourse is not permitted, harmless.

now bring me, brandish your deboning knife & cut my mortal coil

[tree_]

Argo, I don't care if you have a different opinion than me. That's obviously fine. But when you continuously misrepresent my words, I will correct you and tell you what I actually said.

[Ms Harmless]

Yeah, if you have different opinions than what you've typed on here, how could any of us possibly know?

I don't, I'm literally laying out to RM the entirety of my thought processes, and when I've finished downloading the contents of my brain and my heart onto here, I will die

[Mickey]

never thought grover furr’s unimpeachables would get dragged into this

The kind of discourse we're witnessing on this page is neo-Stalinist, which is good, actually.

my position is communist-adjacent; Stalinist? no

Your position is not "communist-adjacent" and this is a MLG joke that was not meant for you.

well, it is, but OK Mickey

It absolutely is not. Words have distinct meanings and being vaguely on the left in the interminable online culture wars--even declaring one's self "not a liberal," though the evidence for that is suspect--does not make one "adjacent" to a discrete and historically specific political position.

"I've only ever seen you in a few discussions and they were all online! there's no way you've thought about your politics beyond what my own eyes have seen!"

Your politics beyond this thread are entirely irrelevant.

I made a statement about where I stood politically as a whole, so no, they aren't; I get called an evil commie a lot, I thought that was what you were doing -- I was wrong; I'm not sure what else you want for the observations and records you're drawing up about me

Wrong:

The kind of discourse we're witnessing on this page is neo-Stalinist, which is good, actually.

my position is communist-adjacent; Stalinist? no

[Mickey]

If you thought that was what you were doing you did a piss-poor job of it!