Are you not not going to watch the Oscars this year?

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for me, the thing was a disability / sickness issue, a gender issue, and a race issue
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What isn't?
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that's highly contextual but for my life? usually the first two are in some way relevant
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Ms Harmless wrote: they're not a monolith
No group is, but I have seen very little support for the slap, no matter the group.
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Rob wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote: they're not a monolith
No group is, but I have seen very little support for the slap, no matter the group.
I've seen much more; RM isn't reflective of my usual online life
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I think if you look at a person’s predominant political leanings, this is a much more reliable stat than skin color or gender, If you want to predict or understand what their opinion on an issue will be
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tree_ wrote:What isn't?
haha
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tree_ wrote:I think if you look at a person’s predominant political leanings, this is a much more reliable stat than skin color or gender, If you want to predict or understand what their opinion on an issue will be
marginalised identity goes a long way towards informing someone's political leanings
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Ms Harmless wrote:
tree_ wrote:I think if you look at a person’s predominant political leanings, this is a much more reliable stat than skin color or gender, If you want to predict or understand what their opinion on an issue will be
marginalised identity goes a long way towards informing someone's political leanings
not every marginalized person has the same opinions, and people can be/feel marginalized in countless different ways
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Were you aware that The Rock has a non-verbal learning disability, where he has trouble reading people's faces and whatnot? So kinda makes sense how he leaned into the smack, didn't even see it coming. Makes it all the more tragic.
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tree_ wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
tree_ wrote:I think if you look at a person’s predominant political leanings, this is a much more reliable stat than skin color or gender, If you want to predict or understand what their opinion on an issue will be
marginalised identity goes a long way towards informing someone's political leanings
not every marginalized person has the same opinions, and people can be/feel marginalized in countless different ways
I know that

people are marginalised or they aren't
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tree_ wrote:Were you aware that The Rock has a non-verbal learning disability, where he has trouble reading people's faces and whatnot? So kinda makes sense how he leaned into the smack, didn't even see it coming. Makes it all the more tragic.
that's interesting, certainly is a factor to add to the big soup of factors
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One could rightfully argue Rock's at least as marginalized as J.P. Smith? He actually has a learning disability. She's losing some hair.
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alopecia of the type she has is an autoimmune disease, a disability; it's not just "losing some hair"

one could argue that due to Chris' learning disability, he shouldn't be mocking women who are prone to it; he's more aware than that
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anyway, that's me right back to the beginning of the rhetorical circle again
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Anyone has has baldness has alopecia. It is the medical term for "bald". They go bald because their immune system kills hair follicles. It's not a debilitating disease in of itself, though I can see how it may hurt someone's self esteem and lead to psychiatric issues.
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Wait, are you arguing that a person with a learning disability should be better at learning stuff?
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Will Smith has been disciplined by the Academy for a slap but Marilyn Manson and Louis C.K. both won Grammys
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tree_ wrote:Wait, are you arguing that a person with a learning disability should be better at learning stuff?
learning disability doesn't mean "bad at learning stuff", I have multiple; yes, people can do better even with a learning disability

like I've said multiple times, Chris is intelligent enough to make a documentary series about Black hair, as well as... well, a whole bunch of successes he's had
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Ms Harmless wrote:
tree_ wrote:Wait, are you arguing that a person with a learning disability should be better at learning stuff?
learning disability doesn't mean "bad at learning stuff", I have multiple; yes, people can do better even with a learning disability

like I've said multiple times, Chris is intelligent enough to make a documentary series about Black hair, as well as... well, a whole bunch of successes he's had
Do you think it's possible he didn't think the joke was offensive or hurtful? Like.. at all possible?
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