Lightning Bolt: the official album thread

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Rank Lightning Bolt

5 stars
1
1%
4 stars
4
5%
3 stars
29
37%
2 stars
30
38%
1 star
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18%
 
Total votes: 78

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harmless wrote:Well, he's an ex-football player, so I was assuming he was a celebrity on the same level as all the others interviewing PJ, in which case hopefully he was paid loads of money to do the job. He's not really just a fan. But I might be wrong.

Stephen Michael "Steve" Gleason (born March 19, 1977) is a former professional football player, a safety with the New Orleans Saints of the National Football League. Originally signed by the Indianapolis Colts as an undrafted free agent in 2000, he played for the Saints through the 2007 season. As a free agent in 2008, Gleason retired from the NFL after eight seasons. Gleason is especially well known for his blocked punt in a 2006 game that became a symbol of recovery in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. In 2011, he revealed that he was battling ALS, commonly known as Lou Gehrig's disease.[1][2] Gleason announced the Saints 3rd round draft pick in the 2013 NFL Draft.

He is the handicapped one interviewing the band in the LB video.

Its sad how fast he's deteriorated
Well yeah, I know who he is. I just wondered why they called the friendship "unique". It's not; he's a famous guy they've paid to interview them, same as the others. The word "unique" is mostly being used here because he's disabled; I see it all the time.
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stupidmop wrote:Maybe they share a toothbrush.
:nice:
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I still don't understand what pisses you off about it.
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Well, some people will, I'll just leave it, it doesn't matter.
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Any updates from the Q&A thing guys? Keep a lookout !
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He's known Mike forever and he has said about him...

"He’s the most inspirational person I’ve probably ever met in terms of someone who has a good attitude and is doing something proactive about his predicament. That’s a cool thing to be around. I look at Steve and I can see his muscles are going, but at the same time he is creating a hospital for ALS patients to better their lives.” Gleason’s organization takes ALS patients on fishing trips and to the Super Bowl, and raises money for innovations in the field. Steve is behind all of that kind of stuff tirelessly, as he’s confined to his wheelchair and can only speak now through his computer. That’s incredibly inspiring."


It's a cool story no need to get riled up about it.
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I didn't say I was riled about the story.
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you're right, you said it kind of pissed you off
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harmless wrote: Well yeah, I know who he is. I just wondered why they called the friendship "unique". It's not; he's a famous guy they've paid to interview them, same as the others. The word "unique" is mostly being used here because he's disabled; I see it all the time.
You think they paid those quasi celebs to do these interviews?
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I didn't say the story Django Butterworth posted after I mentioned the tweet pissed me off. I couldn't have, I didn't have a time machine.
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Is anybody here going to the Seattle listening party tonight.
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I'm glad Mike's inspired, anyway. That's the main thing.
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If I am in the Anti-Leak Club (and I most assuredly am, thank you very much -- only MYM so far), then why oh why do I keep looking to see if this bitch has leaked?

I feel like a guy who has taken a vow of celibacy waiting to see when the new whorehouse opens.
I check even though I don't trust myself to stay outside (as Chris Rock notes, men are only as faithful as their options).

So every time I check, and there is no leak, I feel a little bit relieved. My options remain limited.
We are still all in this together, regardless of how we respond to the temptation when it arrives.
I know this camaraderie will not last much longer -- possibly a few hours, possibly a few days.

So gentlemen, let me just say it has been an honor to serve with you.

Soon, you will leave me behind (at least until I get my Ten Club shipment), but know that a part of you will always be with me.

Now let us each ride the wave where it takes us . . .
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Can a mod (stip?) change my rank from "Future Drummer" to "Lightning Dolt"?
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harmless wrote:Well, some people will, I'll just leave it, it doesn't matter.
For what it's worth, I get it.

Honestly, what else do you think they mean by "unique" in this instance? It's not that he's from the world of sports and they're from the world of music. The media has pushed the "Pearl Jam is friends with sports dudes!" angle ad nauseam since day one (Jack McDowell, Shawn Kemp, Dennis Rodman, Kelly Slater, Pete Sampras, Kerry Wood, Peter Gammons, Theo Epstein, etc.).

I think you're justified in being pissed off, harmless.
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Wonder if I'm going to hear some new Pearl Jam during this baseball game
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Lament wrote:
harmless wrote:Well, some people will, I'll just leave it, it doesn't matter.
For what it's worth, I get it.

Honestly, what else do you think they mean by "unique" in this instance? It's not that he's from the world of sports and they're from the world of music. The media has pushed the "Pearl Jam is friends with sports dudes!" angle ad nauseam since day one (Jack McDowell, Shawn Kemp, Dennis Rodman, Kelly Slater, Pete Sampras, Kerry Wood, Peter Gammons, Theo Epstein, etc.).

I think you're justified in being pissed off, harmless.
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gardenparty wrote:Wonder if I'm going to hear some new Pearl Jam during this baseball game
Have they been playing all four songs from the MLB leak?
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Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
Lament wrote:
harmless wrote:Well, some people will, I'll just leave it, it doesn't matter.
For what it's worth, I get it.

Honestly, what else do you think they mean by "unique" in this instance? It's not that he's from the world of sports and they're from the world of music. The media has pushed the "Pearl Jam is friends with sports dudes!" angle ad nauseam since day one (Jack McDowell, Shawn Kemp, Dennis Rodman, Kelly Slater, Pete Sampras, Kerry Wood, Peter Gammons, Theo Epstein, etc.).

I think you're justified in being pissed off, harmless.
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Lament wrote:
harmless wrote:Well, some people will, I'll just leave it, it doesn't matter.
For what it's worth, I get it.

Honestly, what else do you think they mean by "unique" in this instance? It's not that he's from the world of sports and they're from the world of music. The media has pushed the "Pearl Jam is friends with sports dudes!" angle ad nauseam since day one (Jack McDowell, Shawn Kemp, Dennis Rodman, Kelly Slater, Pete Sampras, Kerry Wood, Peter Gammons, Theo Epstein, etc.).

I think you're justified in being pissed off, harmless.
Cheers Lament.

It's the same old shtick time and again: rather than just an interviewer, he's a guy afflicted with a disease, who happens to be a "huge fan" who is having his life's treat, meeting PJ. The fact that he's an ex-football player and thus a sports celebrity is a footnote in this case. It's infantilisation. Mike is clumsy with his words, so I don't expect any different from him, but I'm far too used to able-bodied people talking about how great it is to be around disabled people because we are so "inspiring". That's great, Mike, but hopefully he's cool to be around just because he is? I'm talking about portrayal, because the media will always give you a version of reality, not the whole thing. And this is a formulaic one I'm very used to. It's a charitable narrative but ultimately not a particularly respectful one.
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