Lightning Bolt: the official album thread

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Rank Lightning Bolt

5 stars
1
1%
4 stars
4
5%
3 stars
29
37%
2 stars
30
38%
1 star
14
18%
 
Total votes: 78

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Re: Keep Harmless Company While He Waits for Lightning Bolt

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Boy, am I little behind in this thread or what?
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CC doesn't really do anything for me. It's just the same thing over and over and doesn't go anywhere...
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EJ wrote:I forget who said it, but LB was 11 songs and then BoB convinced them to add SBM. Don't think it replaced either of those.
and Mike harassed them until they put YM on there as well.
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Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
harmless wrote:
Lament wrote:
harmless wrote:Well, some people will, I'll just leave it, it doesn't matter.
For what it's worth, I get it.

Honestly, what else do you think they mean by "unique" in this instance? It's not that he's from the world of sports and they're from the world of music. The media has pushed the "Pearl Jam is friends with sports dudes!" angle ad nauseam since day one (Jack McDowell, Shawn Kemp, Dennis Rodman, Kelly Slater, Pete Sampras, Kerry Wood, Peter Gammons, Theo Epstein, etc.).

I think you're justified in being pissed off, harmless.
Cheers Lament.

It's the same old shtick time and again: rather than just an interviewer, he's a guy afflicted with a disease, who happens to be a "huge fan" who is having his life's treat, meeting PJ. The fact that he's an ex-football player and thus a sports celebrity is a footnote in this case. It's infantilisation. Mike is clumsy with his words, so I don't expect any different from him, but I'm far too used to able-bodied people talking about how great it is to be around disabled people because we are so "inspiring". That's great, Mike, but hopefully he's cool to be around just because he is? I'm talking about portrayal, because the media will always give you a version of reality, not the whole thing. And this is a formulaic one I'm very used to. It's a charitable narrative but ultimately not a particularly respectful one.
You know, I think I can understand your viewpoint. Able-bodied people are often patronising to people that disabled. I've caught myself doing it before, and it feels terrible.

It's an easy habit to fall into, instead of just treating that person the same regardless of their disability. Isn't there a saying, something like 'see the person, not the disability?'. But, there is often this feeling of needing to be extra nice, and give special treatment, to someone with a disability. I think it's mainly because that person got dealt a shitty hand, and I feel bad for them.
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Django Butterworth wrote:CC doesn't really do anything for me. It's just the same thing over and over and doesn't go anywhere...
I can apply the direct opposite of this analogy to when I'm banging your mother.
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stip wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
stip wrote:I think I would prefer sleeping by myself ( which I love) to let it ride (which I don't)
Did you switch up on them? I though at first you were more into let it ride then CC
Nope. I think cc is fantastic and let it ride is pretty unremarkable outside of some nice extended soloing
Then we agree on that for sure :D
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Django Butterworth wrote:CC doesn't really do anything for me. It's just the same thing over and over and doesn't go anywhere...
Have you listened with head phone have you become one with the song? A casual listen won't do it for this song. Cold Confession asks alot of the listener. Your job is not to hear it. It is to listen, after all it is a confession wouldn't you intently listen to a confession.
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Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
Django Butterworth wrote:CC doesn't really do anything for me. It's just the same thing over and over and doesn't go anywhere...
I can apply the direct opposite of this analogy to when I'm banging your mother.

You like banging dead chicks?
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Tj wrote:
Django Butterworth wrote:CC doesn't really do anything for me. It's just the same thing over and over and doesn't go anywhere...
Have you listened with head phone have you become one with the song? A casual listen won't do it for this song. Cold Confession asks alot of the listener. Your job is not to hear it is to listen, after all it is a confession wouldn't you intently listen to a confession.

Yes. Several times. And it makes sense why it's an outtake.
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Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
stip wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
stip wrote:I think I would prefer sleeping by myself ( which I love) to let it ride (which I don't)
Did you switch up on them? I though at first you were more into let it ride then CC
Nope. I think cc is fantastic and let it ride is pretty unremarkable outside of some nice extended soloing
Then we agree on that for sure :D
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Im still pretty happy with all the dog pics :D
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Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Im still pretty happy with all the dog pics :D
Same here, that's when I thought the thread began to rebound!
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Django Butterworth wrote:
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
Django Butterworth wrote:CC doesn't really do anything for me. It's just the same thing over and over and doesn't go anywhere...
I can apply the direct opposite of this analogy to when I'm banging your mother.

You like banging dead chicks?
Oh.. uh.. shit.

I gotta go..

I'm sorry.

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Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:Im still pretty happy with all the dog pics :D
It's never a bad time to post dog pics. :-)
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Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
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Outstanding
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Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
Django Butterworth wrote:
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
Django Butterworth wrote:CC doesn't really do anything for me. It's just the same thing over and over and doesn't go anywhere...
I can apply the direct opposite of this analogy to when I'm banging your mother.

You like banging dead chicks?
Oh.. uh.. shit.

I gotta go..

I'm sorry.

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No worries dude. S'all good. This lack of a leak has been hard on all of us...
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