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Rm could be purgatory. How would we even know?
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dimejinky99 wrote:Rm could be purgatory. How would we even know?
If it is ... We're gonna be here a while.
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epilogue wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
epilogue wrote:
B wrote:Ah, so you're saying the flash sideways was the purgatory. I'm not convinced that the island isn't purgatory.
Be convinced. It was not.
I'm not sure how people continue to miss this.
who knows

but they sure do
If pergatory is where you improve yourself to get into heaven ... That didn't happen in the flash sideways. It happened on the island.

Flash sideways was a parking lot.
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epilogue wrote:After my week out and about traveling around, I can't tell y'all how fucking excited I am to get back to rewatching LOST. We're about half way through S3. I love this show so much!
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B wrote:
epilogue wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
epilogue wrote:
B wrote:Ah, so you're saying the flash sideways was the purgatory. I'm not convinced that the island isn't purgatory.
Be convinced. It was not.
I'm not sure how people continue to miss this.
who knows

but they sure do
If pergatory is where you improve yourself to get into heaven ... That didn't happen in the flash sideways. It happened on the island.

Flash sideways was a parking lot.
Hurley created the flash sideways so that everybody could join up and work their stuff out and move on together. They were alive on the island and then at various points everybody died, as people tend to do.
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Wait. Hurley created it?
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Hurley: "But people can't leave the island."
Ben: "That's how Jacob ran things. Maybe there is another way."

Are you saying that I am to assume that after the exchange, Hurley created an alternative universe?

Isn't it explicitly stated that they all "created" that place?
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B wrote:Man, I'll tell you what ... once that hatch blows up, no one gives a fuck about the numbers. Why were we so obsessed with the numbers?
:lol:

That was so much a part of the fun of the OG experience, for me. And the numbers still matter. Sort of. You'll see. :D
Wait. the numbers never came back up. What were the numbers? Were they their candidate numbers on the compass?
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Non antagonistic question, maybe I missed hints.

Is the flash sideways the world where Jack set off the bomb?

So, people like Ben and his father went to the island, worked for a bit, and then returned home after some nut attacked the camp and set off a nuclear bomb?

Or is the flash sideways as if the island never existed?

It's clearly not just "the plane didn't crash." Because Jack has a son and Sawyer is a cop, etc.
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B wrote:Non antagonistic question, maybe I missed hints.

Is the flash sideways the world where Jack set off the bomb?
No, that happened on The Island and was real.
B wrote: So, people like Ben and his father went to the island, worked for a bit, and then returned home after some nut attacked the camp and set off a nuclear bomb?
Ben's dad died on the island and Ben was still alive in season 6 post-bomb. As the flash sideways is in the afterlife it exists outside of our view of time.
B wrote: Or is the flash sideways as if the island never existed?
The flash sideways is a purgatory style world Hurley made (presumably using his Jacob powers) for everybody to meet up in the afterlife, solve their stuff, and move on together. There's no island in the flash sideways. The season opens with the flight of 815 over the Pacific and you see the Island submerged underwater.
B wrote: It's clearly not just "the plane didn't crash." Because Jack has a son and Sawyer is a cop, etc.
Correct, the flash sideways is not the "real world." I've always wondered what that means for people like the son Jack never had. Is he just like an afterlife NPC there to help Jack figure things out? That's kinda how I take it.
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Are you using youtubey stuff and DVD extras to answer that? I think all that's made up.

And Ben's dad was alive when the bomb went off. That's why I wondered if the flash sideways was just a universe where the bomb went off, destroyed the power source under the island, and thus everyone's life was different from that point forward.
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B it’s okay if you don’t like the show. Just giving you permission
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It’s a pretty good show!!
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B wrote:Are you using youtubey stuff and DVD extras to answer that? I think all that's made up.

And Ben's dad was alive when the bomb went off. That's why I wondered if the flash sideways was just a universe where the bomb went off, destroyed the power source under the island, and thus everyone's life was different from that point forward.
YT no, maybe some of that is from DVD extras, idk. Ben murdered his dad on the island, we see that happen on the show. Not made up.

As far as what you're wondering, that's exactly what you're supposed to wonder during season 6 but the finale tells us that's not what the flash sideways was. In the finale, we're told explicitly by Christian that everything on the Island happened. We're told the flash sideways occurs "after" (though there's not really time "here") everybody died. We see the ones who were ready move on together to whatever the next phase of the afterlife is that they're entering.
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I love this show. Would love to be transported to this world again with new eyes. Hopefully I can convince my girlfriend to watch it with me someday
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Strat wrote:I love this show. Would love to be transported to this world again with new eyes. Hopefully I can convince my girlfriend to watch it with me someday
I'm not saying that should be a dealbreaker but I'm not saying it shouldn't be a dealbreaker.
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4/5 wrote:
Strat wrote:I love this show. Would love to be transported to this world again with new eyes. Hopefully I can convince my girlfriend to watch it with me someday
I'm not saying that should be a dealbreaker but I'm not saying it shouldn't be a dealbreaker.
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4/5 wrote:
B wrote:Are you using youtubey stuff and DVD extras to answer that? I think all that's made up.

And Ben's dad was alive when the bomb went off. That's why I wondered if the flash sideways was just a universe where the bomb went off, destroyed the power source under the island, and thus everyone's life was different from that point forward.
YT no, maybe some of that is from DVD extras, idk. Ben murdered his dad on the island, we see that happen on the show. Not made up.

As far as what you're wondering, that's exactly what you're supposed to wonder during season 6 but the finale tells us that's not what the flash sideways was. In the finale, we're told explicitly by Christian that everything on the Island happened. We're told the flash sideways occurs "after" (though there's not really time "here") everybody died. We see the ones who were ready move on together to whatever the next phase of the afterlife is that they're entering.
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