No Leak Club

[WtOB?]

I'm so "get off my lawn" about the internet and internet culture. I'm an old fucker who just gets more and more pissed off about the internet every day. My patience is at it's limit. I'd prefer nothing leak ever again. The gross entitlement leaks (and the like) have created make me want to end it all and hope I can start over from scratch. It's all so fucking stupid.

But, on the other hand, I can avoid leaks and the internet if/when I need. And others can have their leaks and it doesn't affect my life, ultimately.

So, yeah, I don't really care. Either way.

i don't think anyone feels "entitled" to a leak. people just know it's inevitable and are excited to hear the album. just calm down.

[@SkitchP]

I'm so "get off my lawn" about the internet and internet culture. I'm an old fucker who just gets more and more pissed off about the internet every day. My patience is at it's limit. I'd prefer nothing leak ever again. The gross entitlement leaks (and the like) have created make me want to end it all and hope I can start over from scratch. It's all so fucking stupid.

But, on the other hand, I can avoid leaks and the internet if/when I need. And others can have their leaks and it doesn't affect my life, ultimately.

So, yeah, I don't really care. Either way.

i don't think anyone feels "entitled" to a leak. people just know it's inevitable and are excited to hear the album. just calm down.

Bullshit. Go into threads about television shows that don't air in their area. People feel entitled to content on their own terms and get petulant when they dont get it.

[Birds in Hell]

I'm so "get off my lawn" about the internet and internet culture. I'm an old fucker who just gets more and more pissed off about the internet every day. My patience is at it's limit. I'd prefer nothing leak ever again. The gross entitlement leaks (and the like) have created make me want to end it all and hope I can start over from scratch. It's all so fucking stupid.

But, on the other hand, I can avoid leaks and the internet if/when I need. And others can have their leaks and it doesn't affect my life, ultimately.

So, yeah, I don't really care. Either way.

i don't think anyone feels "entitled" to a leak. people just know it's inevitable and are excited to hear the album. just calm down.

Bullshit. Go into threads about television shows that don't air in their area. People feel entitled to content on their own terms and get petulant when they dont get it.

I don't feel entitled to content on my own terms but I certainly want it, I get that.

If I can't buy an album in FLAC, I'll probably not buy it at all these days.

[WtOB?]

I'm so "get off my lawn" about the internet and internet culture. I'm an old fucker who just gets more and more pissed off about the internet every day. My patience is at it's limit. I'd prefer nothing leak ever again. The gross entitlement leaks (and the like) have created make me want to end it all and hope I can start over from scratch. It's all so fucking stupid.

But, on the other hand, I can avoid leaks and the internet if/when I need. And others can have their leaks and it doesn't affect my life, ultimately.

So, yeah, I don't really care. Either way.

i don't think anyone feels "entitled" to a leak. people just know it's inevitable and are excited to hear the album. just calm down.

Bullshit. Go into threads about television shows that don't air in their area. People feel entitled to content on their own terms and get petulant when they dont get it.

i'm not talking about television shows.

[@SkitchP]

I'm so "get off my lawn" about the internet and internet culture. I'm an old fucker who just gets more and more pissed off about the internet every day. My patience is at it's limit. I'd prefer nothing leak ever again. The gross entitlement leaks (and the like) have created make me want to end it all and hope I can start over from scratch. It's all so fucking stupid.

But, on the other hand, I can avoid leaks and the internet if/when I need. And others can have their leaks and it doesn't affect my life, ultimately.

So, yeah, I don't really care. Either way.

i don't think anyone feels "entitled" to a leak. people just know it's inevitable and are excited to hear the album. just calm down.

Bullshit. Go into threads about television shows that don't air in their area. People feel entitled to content on their own terms and get petulant when they dont get it.

i'm not talking about television shows.

Go announce you have the leak, then tell people you wont share with them because you dont know them.

you will get a majority 2 types of comments
1. But Ive been here forever and never post!
2. WHAT THE HELL ASSHOLE JUST BECAUSE I AHVE A LIFE OUTSIFE THEE INTERNET

[Birds in Hell]

In any case, the band entirely avoid leaking if they so wish by putting the album directly up for download without fanfare as soon as it's ready (see Nine Inch Nails, Radiohead, My Bloody Valentine, etc.)

By going through the whole promotional circus, the album goes through many hands and it's inevitably going to leak. The band know it but they think the trade-off is worth it, so I presume they're okay with it (or at least resigned to it).

[Birds in Hell]

I'm so "get off my lawn" about the internet and internet culture. I'm an old fucker who just gets more and more pissed off about the internet every day. My patience is at it's limit. I'd prefer nothing leak ever again. The gross entitlement leaks (and the like) have created make me want to end it all and hope I can start over from scratch. It's all so fucking stupid.

But, on the other hand, I can avoid leaks and the internet if/when I need. And others can have their leaks and it doesn't affect my life, ultimately.

So, yeah, I don't really care. Either way.

i don't think anyone feels "entitled" to a leak. people just know it's inevitable and are excited to hear the album. just calm down.

Bullshit. Go into threads about television shows that don't air in their area. People feel entitled to content on their own terms and get petulant when they dont get it.

i'm not talking about television shows.

Go announce you have the leak, then tell people you wont share with them because you dont know them.

you will get a majority 2 types of comments
1. But Ive been here forever and never post!
2. WHAT THE HELL ASSHOLE JUST BECAUSE I AHVE A LIFE OUTSIFE THEE INTERNET

Oh, some people are undoubtedly entitled jerks, but that doesn't mean everyone who'll listen to a leak is an entitled jerk.

[@SkitchP]

I'm so "get off my lawn" about the internet and internet culture. I'm an old fucker who just gets more and more pissed off about the internet every day. My patience is at it's limit. I'd prefer nothing leak ever again. The gross entitlement leaks (and the like) have created make me want to end it all and hope I can start over from scratch. It's all so fucking stupid.

But, on the other hand, I can avoid leaks and the internet if/when I need. And others can have their leaks and it doesn't affect my life, ultimately.

So, yeah, I don't really care. Either way.

i don't think anyone feels "entitled" to a leak. people just know it's inevitable and are excited to hear the album. just calm down.

Bullshit. Go into threads about television shows that don't air in their area. People feel entitled to content on their own terms and get petulant when they dont get it.

i'm not talking about television shows.

Go announce you have the leak, then tell people you wont share with them because you dont know them.

you will get a majority 2 types of comments
1. But Ive been here forever and never post!
2. WHAT THE HELL ASSHOLE JUST BECAUSE I AHVE A LIFE OUTSIFE THEE INTERNET

Oh, some people are undoubtedly entitled jerks, but that doesn't mean everyone who'll listen to a leak is an entitled jerk.

No, but those that actively seek it out, are in large part. People engaged in a community are likely to have absolutely no problem getting ahold of a leak once it occurs, so the entitlement attitude isnt there. Ive heard all the release songs, and they were sent to me when I just said "man, are the new pj songs really that bad."

[harmless]

So is it better to madly and selfishly search for this thing, or to sit back and rely on others who did? Which is more morally acceptable?

[Dr. Van Nostrand]

So is it better to madly and selfishly search for this thing, or to sit back and rely on others who did? Which is more morally acceptable?

I guess listening to a leak that is already out there is slightly more acceptable then searching it out and potentially causing the wide spread leak. But most everyone who is searching out or hoping to hear PJs new album if it leaks has already bought it or will buy it, so i don't think it is terrible either way

[epilogue]

So is it better to madly and selfishly search for this thing, or to sit back and rely on others who did? Which is more morally acceptable?

I'm not sure morality plays into it one way or the other.

[harmless]

So is it better to madly and selfishly search for this thing, or to sit back and rely on others who did? Which is more morally acceptable?

I'm not sure morality plays into it one way or the other.

My point exactly

[epilogue]

So is it better to madly and selfishly search for this thing, or to sit back and rely on others who did? Which is more morally acceptable?

I'm not sure morality plays into it one way or the other.

My point exactly

The morality of the whole issue never bothered/concerned me. It's the entitlement. THE ENTITLEMENT MAN.

[harmless]

So is it better to madly and selfishly search for this thing, or to sit back and rely on others who did? Which is more morally acceptable?

I'm not sure morality plays into it one way or the other.

My point exactly

The morality of the whole issue never bothered/concerned me. It's the entitlement. THE ENTITLEMENT MAN.

I... don't get it. Why would that bother you though?

[epilogue]

So is it better to madly and selfishly search for this thing, or to sit back and rely on others who did? Which is more morally acceptable?

I'm not sure morality plays into it one way or the other.

My point exactly

The morality of the whole issue never bothered/concerned me. It's the entitlement. THE ENTITLEMENT MAN.

I... don't get it. Why would that bother you though?

Maybe it's different for people in other countries -- hell, it's probably different for anyone outside of New York City, but entitlement is a poison here. Entitlement is out of control. Nobody owes anybody anything. You aren't born with the keys. And too many people act like that's just absurd. It gets to me like nothing else.

[harmless]

So is it better to madly and selfishly search for this thing, or to sit back and rely on others who did? Which is more morally acceptable?

I'm not sure morality plays into it one way or the other.

My point exactly

The morality of the whole issue never bothered/concerned me. It's the entitlement. THE ENTITLEMENT MAN.

I... don't get it. Why would that bother you though?

Maybe it's different for people in other countries -- hell, it's probably different for anyone outside of New York City, but entitlement is a poison here. Entitlement is out of control. Nobody owes anybody anything. You aren't born with the keys. And too many people act like that's just absurd. It gets to me like nothing else.

[epilogue]

So, since this thing comes out on the 11th in Australia... IF 10C puts the digital files in the accounts of all the folks who pre-ordered on the 11th... should I listen to them? It wouldn't be a leak. But also the whole point of the NLC (for me) is to have the physical album in hand. What to do... what to do...

[VinylGuy]

So, since this thing comes out on the 11th in Australia... IF 10C puts the digital files in the accounts of all the folks who pre-ordered on the 11th... should I listen to them? It wouldn't be a leak. But also the whole point of the NLC (for me) is to have the physical album in hand. What to do... what to do...

If they release a good pdf with the artwork along with the flac download, i will listen to that.

[WtOB?]

i think at this point i'll be waiting the five days to pick this up at the store.

[VinylGuy]

i think at this point i'll be waiting the five days to pick this up at the store.