Why was Stoner's thread deleted?

[washing machine]

But then what would you guys complain about?! Your whole life is about complaining!

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[washing machine]

But then what would you guys complain about?! Your whole life is about complaining!

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[washing machine]

But then what would you guys complain about?! Your whole life is about complaining!

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[BurtReynolds]

In all seriousness it is funny that we have multiple mods for what is essentially a group chat for a dozen gen Xers. Why? It makes no sense.

The elitist mods can delete posts - or even entire forums - with impunity at their whim, yet the other 10 of us can't! And they pretend they are better than us!

We are marginalized.

[macphisto]

Most people don't even get to make polls. Can you believe that shit? (Yes/No/Not sure)

[E.H. Ruddock]

And that probably won’t change for the rest of the life of this board.

Edit- that was to Burt’s post

[epilogue]

I absolutely do not mind if mods do their job, but in my mind that job is technical board maintenance/admin stuff. Moving threads. Pruning second account/bot spamming. That's pretty much it.

In this particular instance, and based on all of your responses so far explaining your modding (ty by the way), this is how I see that things went down:

1. A thread was started about porn quotes.
2. Things got questionable? The word "slut" was thrown around? Yet no one complained.
3. You decided to delete the thread when no one was looking and had no intention of explaining it until Jorge burt started this thread.

I can see the need to edit/censor when there's a complaint. Or if kids read this board. Or if you were trying to get the board ready for a big corporate sale to pearljam.com and need it to look clean and professional. I think you overstepped, that's all. Doesn't mean I don't want modding to happen, though I do enjoy making it difficult sometimes when I intentionally try to make you merge or move a thread about bagels/donuts.

1. The thread in general, as a topic of discussion was fine totally fine. Let's have a thread about porn quotes.
2. Yes. Yes. Well, I complained.
3. I did not delete the thread. It wasn't covert or "when no one was looking." There were active posters at the time. This wasn't covert in any way. I have no issue explaining what happened. Are you suggesting every mod should make a thread about board maintenance every time they make a move?

I respect that you think I overstepped. But I respectfully disagree. There are other people here posting besides you and we have to take all of their experiences into account.

[epilogue]

Joey's only mistake here was engaging with the paranoid troll group.

I knew full well what I was doing. This has all gone pretty much exactly as I expected. But I decided when I became a mod that I would try to engage and be transparent because I know that's an issue some have with the team here. I know it changes nothing. But it feels like good faith to me and I want to offer that to the community.

I sincerely appreciate this post. I'm not trolling in this thread. I think this is a valuable discussion the board needs to have from time to time. I mean this in the best way possible, but I want to try and make it clear that I respect the mods as people but do not always respect the modding decisions.

That's fair. And we aren't asking you to respect all modding decisions. Again, this isn't a democracy.

[macphisto]

And that probably won’t change for the rest of the life of this board.

Edit- that was to Burt’s post

So polling rights for all are on the table? Any recent discussion about it in the secret squirrel clubhouse?

[macphisto]

Are you suggesting every mod should make a thread about board maintenance every time they make a move?

That would be a yuge step toward mod transparency and accountability!

[E.H. Ruddock]

This place just needs Mecca to come back and mod in GD.

[JuanHamm]

Let's bring back stonecrest. He'd probably ban half the users here and delete GD forever.

[epilogue]

Joey's only mistake here was engaging with the paranoid troll group.

I knew full well what I was doing. This has all gone pretty much exactly as I expected. But I decided when I became a mod that I would try to engage and be transparent because I know that's an issue some have with the team here. I know it changes nothing. But it feels like good faith to me and I want to offer that to the community.

I admire your commitment to this unpaid job, but trying to engage with Burt, Verb or Mac in good faith is like pissing in the wind.

Well, that's certainly true. And I've largely avoided doing so. But tree has asked some good faith questions. And while I know full well Reid is probably trolling too, he's also asking questions that might benefit others. So I'm going to pursue those in good faith, too.

Wait. I just read this. What gives you the idea that I am trolling? I mean, I'm glad you're pursuing it in good faith, but that kind of preconceived wrongness ("I know full well...") is exactly why I think any "modding" outside of board upkeep and admin stuff is dangerous to a small community like RM.

What gives me that idea? Um because I've posted with you for like a decade now.

If I'm wrong, I apologize. I just assumed you were doing your thing. Please forgive me if I'm wrong. My bad.

[washing machine]

Are you suggesting every mod should make a thread about board maintenance every time they make a move?

That would be a yuge step toward mod transparency and accountability!

Yeah, this was my thought too. Probably too advanced for this board's functionality, but something like a thread from a logging bot stickied in tech support would be ideal. Kind of like the activities log in ESPN's fantasy app. Just a ledger of activity.

[epilogue]

Are you suggesting every mod should make a thread about board maintenance every time they make a move?

That would be a yuge step toward mod transparency and accountability!

Alright. So how about this? I'll make a thread in GD. It'll be a locked and stickied thread. Every time I do any board maintenance, I'll post in that thread what I did and why. How's that sound?

[washing machine]

Joey's only mistake here was engaging with the paranoid troll group.

I knew full well what I was doing. This has all gone pretty much exactly as I expected. But I decided when I became a mod that I would try to engage and be transparent because I know that's an issue some have with the team here. I know it changes nothing. But it feels like good faith to me and I want to offer that to the community.

I admire your commitment to this unpaid job, but trying to engage with Burt, Verb or Mac in good faith is like pissing in the wind.

Well, that's certainly true. And I've largely avoided doing so. But tree has asked some good faith questions. And while I know full well Reid is probably trolling too, he's also asking questions that might benefit others. So I'm going to pursue those in good faith, too.

Wait. I just read this. What gives you the idea that I am trolling? I mean, I'm glad you're pursuing it in good faith, but that kind of preconceived wrongness ("I know full well...") is exactly why I think any "modding" outside of board upkeep and admin stuff is dangerous to a small community like RM.

What gives me that idea? Um because I've posted with you for like a decade now.

If I'm wrong, I apologize. I just assumed you were doing your thing. Please forgive me if I'm wrong. My bad.

"My thing" isn't what you think it is and really hasn't even been close to that in at least a decade. I'm not hurt or anything, so I don't feel the need to forgive you, but I wish you'd engage me (and other RMers, like that dev thing from a few days ago...) with an open mind more often.

[epilogue]

Are you suggesting every mod should make a thread about board maintenance every time they make a move?

That would be a yuge step toward mod transparency and accountability!

Yeah, this was my thought too. Probably too advanced for this board's functionality, but something like a thread from a logging bot stickied in tech support would be ideal. Kind of like the activities log in ESPN's fantasy app. Just a ledger of activity.

Okay, cool. I'll do that in tech instead of GD

[washing machine]

Make a bot do it.

[epilogue]

I don't know how to do that.

[epilogue]

In all seriousness it is funny that we have multiple mods for what is essentially a group chat for a dozen gen Xers. Why? It makes no sense.

The elitist mods can delete posts - or even entire forums - with impunity at their whim, yet the other 10 of us can't! And they pretend they are better than us!

We are marginalized.

It's hilarious how many of you think deleting the old GD was a conspiracy. I'm not necessarily surprised... but it's still funny.