America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

[verb_to_trust]

Are you guys trying to defend gun ownership rights? Or the right to just not have to care about kids getting killed? I can't really tell.

Come on, man. I have kids at school today.

So then answer my question. Are you not worried about your kids after something like this? How can you be ok with everything just staying the same because "nothing can be done"?

there is a difference between nothing can be done and i do not want to do anything. they just wont admit it

Heartfelt pleas for change are just the lefts thoughts and prayers. Steve Kerr went and coached his basketball game last night after his performance during the presser and is probably flanked by security constantly, lives in a gated community.

Got it. You are just defending your right not to care that little kids got killed.

Bingo

When Push Comes to Shove it takes more than heartfelt pleas for change, you have to produce workable solutions. At first blush, I'm not able to identify what could have stopped this kid

A multi-generational campaign of firearm confiscation so we'll make a dent in this in say, 200 years?

People will literally be killed if you send out teams to confiscate weapons.

[Peeps]

Are you guys trying to defend gun ownership rights? Or the right to just not have to care about kids getting killed? I can't really tell.

Come on, man. I have kids at school today.

So then answer my question. Are you not worried about your kids after something like this? How can you be ok with everything just staying the same because "nothing can be done"?

there is a difference between nothing can be done and i do not want to do anything. they just wont admit it

Heartfelt pleas for change are just the lefts thoughts and prayers. Steve Kerr went and coached his basketball game last night after his performance during the presser and is probably flanked by security constantly, lives in a gated community.

Got it. You are just defending your right not to care that little kids got killed.

Bingo

When Push Comes to Shove it takes more than heartfelt pleas for change, you have to produce workable solutions. At first blush, I'm not able to identify what could have stopped this kid

A multi-generational campaign of firearm confiscation so we'll make a dent in this in say, 200 years?

that's what 2nd ammendment lifers want people to believe. the only solution is to confiscate gun. its like the kapernick kneeling. no matter how many times it is explained to them they make up their own answer

[Superblood Wolfmoon]

Are you guys trying to defend gun ownership rights? Or the right to just not have to care about kids getting killed? I can't really tell.

Come on, man. I have kids at school today.

So then answer my question. Are you not worried about your kids after something like this? How can you be ok with everything just staying the same because "nothing can be done"?

there is a difference between nothing can be done and i do not want to do anything. they just wont admit it

Heartfelt pleas for change are just the lefts thoughts and prayers. Steve Kerr went and coached his basketball game last night after his performance during the presser and is probably flanked by security constantly, lives in a gated community.

Got it. You are just defending your right not to care that little kids got killed.

Bingo

When Push Comes to Shove it takes more than heartfelt pleas for change, you have to produce workable solutions. At first blush, I'm not able to identify what could have stopped this kid

A multi-generational campaign of firearm confiscation so we'll make a dent in this in say, 200 years?

People will literally be killed if you send out teams to confiscate weapons.

Yeah, gun nuts, not schoolchildren.

[verb_to_trust]

Are you guys trying to defend gun ownership rights? Or the right to just not have to care about kids getting killed? I can't really tell.

Come on, man. I have kids at school today.

So then answer my question. Are you not worried about your kids after something like this? How can you be ok with everything just staying the same because "nothing can be done"?

there is a difference between nothing can be done and i do not want to do anything. they just wont admit it

Heartfelt pleas for change are just the lefts thoughts and prayers. Steve Kerr went and coached his basketball game last night after his performance during the presser and is probably flanked by security constantly, lives in a gated community.

Got it. You are just defending your right not to care that little kids got killed.

Bingo

When Push Comes to Shove it takes more than heartfelt pleas for change, you have to produce workable solutions. At first blush, I'm not able to identify what could have stopped this kid

A multi-generational campaign of firearm confiscation so we'll make a dent in this in say, 200 years?

People will literally be killed if you send out teams to confiscate weapons.

Yeah, gun nuts, not schoolchildren.

So if they don't give up the gun they get shot? I think it would probably be the other way around.

[Superblood Wolfmoon]

Are you guys trying to defend gun ownership rights? Or the right to just not have to care about kids getting killed? I can't really tell.

Come on, man. I have kids at school today.

So then answer my question. Are you not worried about your kids after something like this? How can you be ok with everything just staying the same because "nothing can be done"?

there is a difference between nothing can be done and i do not want to do anything. they just wont admit it

Heartfelt pleas for change are just the lefts thoughts and prayers. Steve Kerr went and coached his basketball game last night after his performance during the presser and is probably flanked by security constantly, lives in a gated community.

Got it. You are just defending your right not to care that little kids got killed.

Bingo

When Push Comes to Shove it takes more than heartfelt pleas for change, you have to produce workable solutions. At first blush, I'm not able to identify what could have stopped this kid

A multi-generational campaign of firearm confiscation so we'll make a dent in this in say, 200 years?

People will literally be killed if you send out teams to confiscate weapons.

Yeah, gun nuts, not schoolchildren.

So if they don't give up the gun they get shot? I think it would probably be the other way around.

That's...not what I said. I assumed you meant that the "from my cold dead hands" crowd would rather die in a blaze of glory than give up their precious AR.

[Mickey]

Just a guy on the internet with a few opinions, same as you.

R2d?

Very stupid guess, I don't think SBWM has even once requested the gps coordinates of another RMer.

Someone actually did that? Who?

Actually it was macphisto who requested my home address but run2death definitely had "show up at your work" vibes if you disagreed with him

[Superblood Wolfmoon]

Just a guy on the internet with a few opinions, same as you.

R2d?

Very stupid guess, I don't think SBWM has even once requested the gps coordinates of another RMer.

Someone actually did that? Who?

Actually it was macphisto who requested my home address but run2death definitely had "show up at your work" vibes if you disagreed with him

[E.H. Ruddock]

And no, I'm not crippled with fear thinking about my kids dying at school. Losing them to a mass shooter is statistically on the order of the school being swept away by a tornado or their bus driving off a bridge.

And here we are at the crux of everything wrong with our society: a lack of empathy. I understand the statistics and how they apply to my own situation as well and am not "crippled with fear" (a phrase you tough guys love to employ against empathetic people) that a mass shooting will happen at my kid's school. I guess the difference between us is that I have empathy for other people's kids, not just my own. It's a trait that I value and nurture in my own kids. And more than someone's feelings or beliefs on a particular issue, it's a lack of empathy that I find the most abhorrent in a person.

This is what I'm finding most disturbing about some people in this discussion. Not one ounce of being upset or feeling bad for someone else's situation.

[Superblood Wolfmoon]

And no, I'm not crippled with fear thinking about my kids dying at school. Losing them to a mass shooter is statistically on the order of the school being swept away by a tornado or their bus driving off a bridge.

And here we are at the crux of everything wrong with our society: a lack of empathy. I understand the statistics and how they apply to my own situation as well and am not "crippled with fear" (a phrase you tough guys love to employ against empathetic people) that a mass shooting will happen at my kid's school. I guess the difference between us is that I have empathy for other people's kids, not just my own. It's a trait that I value and nurture in my own kids. And more than someone's feelings or beliefs on a particular issue, it's a lack of empathy that I find the most abhorrent in a person.

This is what I'm finding most disturbing about some people in this discussion. Not one ounce of being upset or feeling bad for someone else's situation.

Yeah. I'm sure the tough guys here will mock me mercilessly, but I've wept several times over the last day thinking about these kids, their families, their community, etc.

We have an epidemic of hopelessness in this country, which I think is at the root of these things even more than guns. But nobody wants to do anything about that either.

[E.H. Ruddock]

Current press conference about it with Ted Cruz standing there, and the guy speaking first says "we have no mental health history on the individual" followed by "I spoke with all law enforcement and they all say the problem is mental health".

Why can't it be both? Why can't it be guns and mental health? If I have two employees that are so shitty that they are hurting my business, I address both problems, not just fire one and hope for the best with the other.

[macphisto]

I posted yesterday that I was sick to my stomach over this, but I must have made that up because you’ve decided I’m incapable of empathy.

[spike]

Are you guys trying to defend gun ownership rights? Or the right to just not have to care about kids getting killed? I can't really tell.

Come on, man. I have kids at school today.

So then answer my question. Are you not worried about your kids after something like this? How can you be ok with everything just staying the same because "nothing can be done"?

there is a difference between nothing can be done and i do not want to do anything. they just wont admit it

Heartfelt pleas for change are just the lefts thoughts and prayers. Steve Kerr went and coached his basketball game last night after his performance during the presser and is probably flanked by security constantly, lives in a gated community.

Got it. You are just defending your right not to care that little kids got killed.

Bingo

When Push Comes to Shove it takes more than heartfelt pleas for change, you have to produce workable solutions. At first blush, I'm not able to identify what could have stopped this kid

A multi-generational campaign of firearm confiscation so we'll make a dent in this in say, 200 years?

People will literally be killed if you send out teams to confiscate weapons.

Hahaha, not going to happen. They’re pussies.

[verb_to_trust]

Are you guys trying to defend gun ownership rights? Or the right to just not have to care about kids getting killed? I can't really tell.

Come on, man. I have kids at school today.

So then answer my question. Are you not worried about your kids after something like this? How can you be ok with everything just staying the same because "nothing can be done"?

there is a difference between nothing can be done and i do not want to do anything. they just wont admit it

Heartfelt pleas for change are just the lefts thoughts and prayers. Steve Kerr went and coached his basketball game last night after his performance during the presser and is probably flanked by security constantly, lives in a gated community.

Got it. You are just defending your right not to care that little kids got killed.

Bingo

When Push Comes to Shove it takes more than heartfelt pleas for change, you have to produce workable solutions. At first blush, I'm not able to identify what could have stopped this kid

A multi-generational campaign of firearm confiscation so we'll make a dent in this in say, 200 years?

People will literally be killed if you send out teams to confiscate weapons.

Yeah, gun nuts, not schoolchildren.

So if they don't give up the gun they get shot? I think it would probably be the other way around.

That's...not what I said. I assumed you meant that the "from my cold dead hands" crowd would rather die in a blaze of glory than give up their precious AR.

Yeah they'd take out a few ATF guys with them

[verb_to_trust]

Are you guys trying to defend gun ownership rights? Or the right to just not have to care about kids getting killed? I can't really tell.

Come on, man. I have kids at school today.

So then answer my question. Are you not worried about your kids after something like this? How can you be ok with everything just staying the same because "nothing can be done"?

there is a difference between nothing can be done and i do not want to do anything. they just wont admit it

Heartfelt pleas for change are just the lefts thoughts and prayers. Steve Kerr went and coached his basketball game last night after his performance during the presser and is probably flanked by security constantly, lives in a gated community.

Got it. You are just defending your right not to care that little kids got killed.

Bingo

When Push Comes to Shove it takes more than heartfelt pleas for change, you have to produce workable solutions. At first blush, I'm not able to identify what could have stopped this kid

A multi-generational campaign of firearm confiscation so we'll make a dent in this in say, 200 years?

People will literally be killed if you send out teams to confiscate weapons.

Hahaha, not going to happen. They’re pussies.

You haven't been outside your gated community in a while have you?

[simple schoolboy]

Yeah they'd take out a few ATF guys with them

The number of people actually willing to set their comfortable lives on fire over this is pretty small, but any actual proposal other than voluntary hand over (with vanishingly small compliance) with random enforcement is insane.

Public support for an actual door to door campaign would weaken when soccer moms understand the number of dogs the cops would shoot in the process of enforcement.

[Superblood Wolfmoon]

Are you guys trying to defend gun ownership rights? Or the right to just not have to care about kids getting killed? I can't really tell.

Come on, man. I have kids at school today.

So then answer my question. Are you not worried about your kids after something like this? How can you be ok with everything just staying the same because "nothing can be done"?

there is a difference between nothing can be done and i do not want to do anything. they just wont admit it

Heartfelt pleas for change are just the lefts thoughts and prayers. Steve Kerr went and coached his basketball game last night after his performance during the presser and is probably flanked by security constantly, lives in a gated community.

Got it. You are just defending your right not to care that little kids got killed.

Bingo

When Push Comes to Shove it takes more than heartfelt pleas for change, you have to produce workable solutions. At first blush, I'm not able to identify what could have stopped this kid

A multi-generational campaign of firearm confiscation so we'll make a dent in this in say, 200 years?

People will literally be killed if you send out teams to confiscate weapons.

Yeah, gun nuts, not schoolchildren.

So if they don't give up the gun they get shot? I think it would probably be the other way around.

That's...not what I said. I assumed you meant that the "from my cold dead hands" crowd would rather die in a blaze of glory than give up their precious AR.

Yeah they'd take out a few ATF guys with them

Again, not schoolchildren, but trained professionals who understand the inherent, life-threatening danger of their job.

But look, I don't think it's a realistic solution to confiscate guns anyway. Were it up to me, their future sale/manufacture for civilians would be banned. I'd offer a voluntary buy-back program, and if you choose to keep your weapon, it's registered and it's an opportunity for the authorities to look into someone's history to determine whether they're a danger to society by having that weapon. Because I think one thing we can all perhaps agree on is that these weapons should not be in the hands of people who only wish to harm others or are mentally unstable/ill.

[spike]

Are you guys trying to defend gun ownership rights? Or the right to just not have to care about kids getting killed? I can't really tell.

Come on, man. I have kids at school today.

So then answer my question. Are you not worried about your kids after something like this? How can you be ok with everything just staying the same because "nothing can be done"?

there is a difference between nothing can be done and i do not want to do anything. they just wont admit it

Heartfelt pleas for change are just the lefts thoughts and prayers. Steve Kerr went and coached his basketball game last night after his performance during the presser and is probably flanked by security constantly, lives in a gated community.

Got it. You are just defending your right not to care that little kids got killed.

Bingo

When Push Comes to Shove it takes more than heartfelt pleas for change, you have to produce workable solutions. At first blush, I'm not able to identify what could have stopped this kid

A multi-generational campaign of firearm confiscation so we'll make a dent in this in say, 200 years?

People will literally be killed if you send out teams to confiscate weapons.

Hahaha, not going to happen. They’re pussies.

You haven't been outside your gated community in a while have you?

I live in Chiraq, remember?

[macphisto]

Yeah they'd take out a few ATF guys with them

The number of people actually willing to set their comfortable lives on fire over this is pretty small, but any actual proposal other than voluntary hand over (with vanishingly small compliance) with random enforcement is insane.

Public support for an actual door to door campaign would weaken when soccer moms understand the number of dogs the cops would shoot in the process of enforcement.

Kids too, but if they're being raised in conservative, gun-owning households, do their lives even matter?

[Coach]

[spike]

Yeah they'd take out a few ATF guys with them

The number of people actually willing to set their comfortable lives on fire over this is pretty small, but any actual proposal other than voluntary hand over (with vanishingly small compliance) with random enforcement is insane.

Public support for an actual door to door campaign would weaken when soccer moms understand the number of dogs the cops would shoot in the process of enforcement.

Kids too, but if they're being raised in conservative, gun-owning households, do their lives even matter?

wtf