Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

May the force be with you
Post Reply
User avatar
Ensign9
Future Drummer
Posts: 2306
Joined: Sat January 12, 2013 7:19 pm
Location: Buffalo, NY
Contact:

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Post by Ensign9 »

Rangi Guy wrote:
Ensign9 wrote:I had to stop halfway through the second episode. This show is bad.
Will my kids like it though? They just finished watching episode 3 in preparation
I would hope your kids have better taste than this poorly made fan film.
deep substrate foliated kalkite
User avatar
Rangi Guy
Mind Your Tanners
Posts: 9474
Joined: Fri March 22, 2013 7:20 pm
Twitter: https://twitter.com/MistorKitty
Location: 41.1716° S, 174.8248° E

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Post by Rangi Guy »

Ensign9 wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:
Ensign9 wrote:I had to stop halfway through the second episode. This show is bad.
Will my kids like it though? They just finished watching episode 3 in preparation
I would hope your kids have better taste than this poorly made fan film.
They're 5 & 6, so they're still pretty dumb
"I really enjoy sandwiches but the other guys are so good at making sandwiches that I don't make them. Now I make sandwiches."
User avatar
dimejinky99
what on earth am I talking about
Posts: 39789
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Post by dimejinky99 »

The intro is a huge recap of the prequels. They’ll get it.
Calibrate your enthusiasm
User avatar
Ensign9
Future Drummer
Posts: 2306
Joined: Sat January 12, 2013 7:19 pm
Location: Buffalo, NY
Contact:

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Post by Ensign9 »

dimejinky99 wrote:
Ensign9 wrote:I had to stop halfway through the second episode. This show is bad.
Watch to the end.
Five seconds of Vader in a bacta tank is supposed to make up for two hours of garbage?

Ewan deserves so much better than this.

All the worst fears I had from the trailer have proven out. Looks cheap. Mediocre supporting actors. Forgettable music. Poorly written. Book of Boba Fett-level stunt work. All of the worst elements of the prequels without any of the good stuff, save Ewan.
deep substrate foliated kalkite
User avatar
dimejinky99
what on earth am I talking about
Posts: 39789
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Post by dimejinky99 »

Ah well. You can’t please everyone.
Calibrate your enthusiasm
User avatar
Ensign9
Future Drummer
Posts: 2306
Joined: Sat January 12, 2013 7:19 pm
Location: Buffalo, NY
Contact:

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Post by Ensign9 »

I bear no ill will to anyone that enjoyed that but I feel safe in saying you have lowered your standards for the technical execution of Star Wars content.
deep substrate foliated kalkite
User avatar
dimejinky99
what on earth am I talking about
Posts: 39789
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Post by dimejinky99 »

Ensign9 wrote:I bear no ill will to anyone that enjoyed that but I feel safe in saying you have lowered your standards for the technical execution of Star Wars content.

Cool.
There’s only so much you can do with desert and tatooine. People might be bored seeing it. I’ll give you that.
But soon as it went off world it was brilliant design. And pure Star Wars.
Wish it was a bit brighter but that’s my only complaint really.
Calibrate your enthusiasm
User avatar
Ensign9
Future Drummer
Posts: 2306
Joined: Sat January 12, 2013 7:19 pm
Location: Buffalo, NY
Contact:

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (20

Post by Ensign9 »

dimejinky99 wrote:
Ensign9 wrote:I bear no ill will to anyone that enjoyed that but I feel safe in saying you have lowered your standards for the technical execution of Star Wars content.

Cool.
There’s only so much you can do with desert and tatooine. People might be bored seeing it. I’ll give you that.
But soon as it went off world it was brilliant design. And pure Star Wars.
Wish it was a bit brighter but that’s my only complaint really.
The overhead wide shots of the city looked good. The ships did not. To me, one of the key differentiators between good effects and bad/mediocre ones is the “weight” of CGI assets. Ships, characters doing stunts, etc. The ships all had the floaty feel of the latter. Compare anything from these two episodes with the ship and environment effects in Rogue One. It’s night and day.

Reva’s parkour routine looked like satisfactory wire work. Hardly the standard a flagship Star Wars show should struggle living up to.

All that paired with poor direction (framing of shots, camera movements, etc.). That Order 66 opener looked like it was shot by an amateur film crew.

I struggle to accept the Disney+ productions can’t find better supporting actors to populate their shows. Rupert was solid but he didn’t last long.

More so than anything, I simply don’t like the direction they’ve chosen to go with the show thus far. All the Alderaan and Leia stuff feel like deleted scenes from Phantom Menace. I expected/wanted a dark, atmospheric, brooding tone and most of the focus on a broken Obi-Wan. We got only glimpses of that between Leia being a brat and Reva whining.

I wish I liked it. I wouldn’t write this many words about something Star Wars-related if I didn’t love the franchise. But I fear fan service has become a greater priority for Lucasfilm and Disney than empowering great talent to execute their visions. The best of recent Star Wars is all borne of collaboration but I feel like there were some true risk takers with top-level talent driving a singular vision.

As much as I’ve given credit to Kathleen Kennedy for taking creative chances that led to Rogue One, Solo, and Last Jedi, the execution as of late is declining precipitously.
Last edited by Ensign9 on Fri May 27, 2022 7:49 am, edited 3 times in total.
deep substrate foliated kalkite
Got Some
Future Drummer
Posts: 2001
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 11:39 am

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Post by Got Some »

dimejinky99 wrote:One of you said this what was gonna happen and he the story and I said it can’t as how would she not remember this and behave like she never met him. Apologies to whoever it was.
They do need to clear this up though. Mind wipe or something

Overall thoughts on the show dime ??
User avatar
Anders
NEVER STOP JAMMING!
Posts: 23544
Joined: Fri July 12, 2013 9:11 pm
Twitter: https://twitter.com/lowenan
Location: Oslo, Norway

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (20

Post by Anders »

Ensign9 wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Ensign9 wrote:As much as I’ve given credit to Kathleen Kennedy for taking creative chances that led to Rogue One, Solo, and Last Jedi, the execution as of late is declining precipitously.
With this poor take, I feel safe in thinking I will enjoy this show.
User avatar
dimejinky99
what on earth am I talking about
Posts: 39789
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Post by dimejinky99 »

Got Some wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:One of you said this what was gonna happen and he the story and I said it can’t as how would she not remember this and behave like she never met him. Apologies to whoever it was.
They do need to clear this up though. Mind wipe or something

Overall thoughts on the show dime ??

Loved it! Ewan especially. Obi wans lost. His reluctance to go back is perfect.
I get what it’s doing too. And why they did it like this with these two together.
Loved all of it.
Calibrate your enthusiasm
User avatar
dimejinky99
what on earth am I talking about
Posts: 39789
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (20

Post by dimejinky99 »

Anders wrote:
Ensign9 wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Ensign9 wrote:As much as I’ve given credit to Kathleen Kennedy for taking creative chances that led to Rogue One, Solo, and Last Jedi, the execution as of late is declining precipitously.
With this poor take, I feel safe in thinking I will enjoy this show.

Someone needs to stay off YouTube. And I don’t mean you.
Calibrate your enthusiasm
User avatar
epilogue
We All We Got, We All We Need
Posts: 85154
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:33 pm
Location: Ghorman
Contact:

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (20

Post by epilogue »

Ensign9 wrote: Rupert was solid but he didn’t last long.
Not a Rebels fan huh?
User avatar
epilogue
We All We Got, We All We Need
Posts: 85154
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:33 pm
Location: Ghorman
Contact:

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Post by epilogue »

I agree with some of Ensigns points. But the stuff that works far out weighs the stuff that doesn't. Bad stunts aside, the emotional core of the story, the Obi-Wan inner struggle, that stuff is so great.

I'm already in love with this show and now that the scrapped movie is out of the way, I'm just so pumped to see what comes next.

I'll post more about what I liked and didn't like later. But I have to get ready for work now.
User avatar
E.H. Ruddock
Guys, I am not a moderator! I swear to God! Why does everyone think I'm a moderator?
Posts: 52023
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:48 pm

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Post by E.H. Ruddock »

dimejinky99 wrote:One of you said this what was gonna happen and he the story and I said it can’t as how would she not remember this and behave like she never met him. Apologies to whoever it was.
They do need to clear this up though. Mind wipe or something
I told you!
Clouuuuds Rolll byyy...BANG BANG BANG BANG
User avatar
dimejinky99
what on earth am I talking about
Posts: 39789
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Post by dimejinky99 »

Loved this. Only idiots like us would even spot that.
Calibrate your enthusiasm
User avatar
dimejinky99
what on earth am I talking about
Posts: 39789
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Post by dimejinky99 »

E.H. Ruddock wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:One of you said this what was gonna happen and he the story and I said it can’t as how would she not remember this and behave like she never met him. Apologies to whoever it was.
They do need to clear this up though. Mind wipe or something
I told you!

Well I’m sorry pal.
I do think it’s a wrinkle they need to iron out now though. It clashes with the hologram she sends Kenobi in R2 in a new hope.

At the same time, someone else made the point now we know / she has a reason to call her son Ben.

I can’t see the story group screwing up and I’m sure they have a fix for it. I hope so anyways.
Calibrate your enthusiasm
User avatar
dimejinky99
what on earth am I talking about
Posts: 39789
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Post by dimejinky99 »

Loved the clone trooper begging. Great way to get Tem Morrison in again. Did he recognise him?
I think he did.

Someone spotted that he was wearing a Jedi robe, many of the clones wore them to sneak into the temple for order 66 apparently. This was detailed in the ROTS novel it seems.
Calibrate your enthusiasm
User avatar
Mecca
slower than 82% of US
Posts: 8620
Joined: Wed December 19, 2012 7:17 pm

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Post by Mecca »

Needles is a long way from being Marty McFly’s boss
User avatar
dimejinky99
what on earth am I talking about
Posts: 39789
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am

Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)

Post by dimejinky99 »

Yeah flea took me out if it a bit. I’m sure it won’t bother the majority of people watching though
Calibrate your enthusiasm
Post Reply