The War on Terror /Central Asia/Mid East/Africa thread

[McParadigm]

I was just reading about that. Awful.

[dimejinky99]

They also raided her house today.

[dimejinky99]

Look how they frame this stuff. It would make you puke.
Our own media here in Ireland weren't much better. Claimed 18 Israelis had been killed this year and 42 Palestinians had died in their report.
Would make you despair.

[dimejinky99]

She was American Palestinian. You’d think there’d be a bigger reaction on that alone.
But NYT is covering it at least.

[Bi_3]

embedded tweets dont seem to work for me, but for those that can see them:

[BurtReynolds]

[Biff Pocoroba]

Wow.
I considered myself to be a Republican in the early ‘00s but the W administration really disillusioned me from the party. They sure have not done anything to woo me back.

[elliseamos]

[simple schoolboy]

After early attempts to fund 'moderate' rebels ended up with competing State Dept and CIA backed factions that immediately disbanded after contact with Islamist factions, I think it was appropriate for the US to admit that it was incompetent at this and pack it all in.

If Turkey were a willing intermediary like Pakistan was with the Afghans in the 80s it might have worked out differently. Unfortunately they are far more interested in supressing Kurds than liberating Arabs.

[elliseamos]

You know it better than me, but it seems like an easy step... in hindsight.

[elliseamos]

The documents and interviews provide the most detailed picture yet of an obscure funding authority that allows American commandos to conduct counterterrorism operations “by, with, and through” foreign and irregular partner forces around the world. Basic information about these missions — where they are conducted, their frequency and targets, and the foreign forces the U.S. relies on to carry them out — are unknown even to most members of relevant congressional committees and key State Department personnel.

I haven't finished reading this, but thought others might want to:

https://theintercept.com/2022/07/01/pen ... roxy-wars/

[elliseamos]

Finished. I need a shower.

[simple schoolboy]

Reconsidering the US hesitancy to rescue hostages overseas.

We probably figured we had resolved this once and for all after dealing with the Barbary States.

(Most of the European powers were fine with paying them off. We* said no)

We just now have a massive gulf between foreign policy and our stated hostage policy. There's a one off of some nun recently getting rescued. It's embarrassing. American hostages should get met by tomahawks on the guys that okayed it on day 2.

An Italian nun hostage would have been paid free by month 3.

*Sweden can't help it but be metal

[dimejinky99]

When you lock an entire people in an open air prison and treat them like animals and like this, what do expect?
That simple really.

[elliseamos]

A rough transcript of a 2004 interview George W. Bush and Dick Cheney gave to a government commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks provides a glimpse of the former president’s and vice president’s views of the seminal event that defined their eight years in the White House.

Just slipping this into the news whilst the country counts hanging chads.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-expect ... 1668018211

[Bi_3]

A rough transcript of a 2004 interview George W. Bush and Dick Cheney gave to a government commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks provides a glimpse of the former president’s and vice president’s views of the seminal event that defined their eight years in the White House.

Just slipping this into the news whilst the country counts hanging chads.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-expect ... 1668018211

“‘Yes, engage the enemy,’” Mr. Bush is described as saying he had told Mr. Cheney. “‘You have the authority to shoot down an airplane.’”

http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtop ... 9#p1379129

[elliseamos]

Isreal. We hardly knew ye?

[Bi_3]

Isreal. We hardly knew ye?

Don't do them dirty.

[elliseamos]

Isreal. We hardly knew ye?

Don't do them dirty.

Without a judicial branch they'll implode, no?

[dimejinky99]