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Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)
Here's a pretty balanced review of episode three in Vulture, which is part of New York Magazine.
This is a funny read that picks on the writing a bit:
Vader further tortures his former father-slash-brother figure with a bunch of hackneyed bullshit out of a second-tier mid-2000s superhero movie: “I am what you made me” and “You should have killed me when you had the chance.” James Earl Jones returns for this? Obi-Wan is granted a temporary reprieve from both overcooked skin and undercooked writing when Tala shows up to save him. But to do so, she has to leave Leia on her own, which sends her into Reva’s clutches.
https://www.vulture.com/article/obi-wan ... three.html
This is a funny read that picks on the writing a bit:
Vader further tortures his former father-slash-brother figure with a bunch of hackneyed bullshit out of a second-tier mid-2000s superhero movie: “I am what you made me” and “You should have killed me when you had the chance.” James Earl Jones returns for this? Obi-Wan is granted a temporary reprieve from both overcooked skin and undercooked writing when Tala shows up to save him. But to do so, she has to leave Leia on her own, which sends her into Reva’s clutches.
https://www.vulture.com/article/obi-wan ... three.html
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Vader further tortures his former father-slash-brother figure with a bunch of hackneyed bullshit out of a second-tier mid-2000s superhero movie: “I am what you made me” and “You should have killed me when you had the chance.” James Earl Jones returns for this?
Sorry Coach but nothing about that quote seems "balanced."
Sorry Coach but nothing about that quote seems "balanced."
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Honestly, if the retcon crowd wants to get its underwear all twisted up, how come no one wants to talk about Obi-Wan and Yoda's conversation in Empire? OBK literally says Luke is the only hope. Yoda tells him "there is another." It's bad enough that OBK doesn't remember that two fucking kids were born but that shit is even more egregious now that we've seen the first three episodes of this series.
Maybe they wipe Leia's memory (I really doubt it!) but someone is gonna need to move an x-wing with their mind to explain how the fuck Obi-Wan can't remember Leia in Empire!
Maybe they wipe Leia's memory (I really doubt it!) but someone is gonna need to move an x-wing with their mind to explain how the fuck Obi-Wan can't remember Leia in Empire!
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Maybe leia never showed she was force sensitive. At least to obi wan’s knowledge
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Oh totally. Canonically we know she can't show any obvious Force use for a few years. I just think it's shitty that Obi-Want doesn't remember Leia exists. Not that she is the "new hope" but he doesn't even seem to remember her at all!E.H. Ruddock wrote:Maybe leia never showed she was force sensitive. At least to obi wan’s knowledge
They've actually explored this in canon. Yoda believes Leia is "the chosen one" but OBK really thinks it's Luke. So it actually tracks really well and makes sense that he makes his comment to Yoda.
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It was always Anakinepilogue wrote:Oh totally. Canonically we know she can't show any obvious Force use for a few years. I just think it's shitty that Obi-Want doesn't remember Leia exists. Not that she is the "new hope" but he doesn't even seem to remember her at all!E.H. Ruddock wrote:Maybe leia never showed she was force sensitive. At least to obi wan’s knowledge
They've actually explored this in canon. Yoda believes Leia is "the chosen one" but OBK really thinks it's Luke. So it actually tracks really well and makes sense that he makes his comment to Yoda.
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Tell that to KenobiMecca wrote:It was always Anakinepilogue wrote:Oh totally. Canonically we know she can't show any obvious Force use for a few years. I just think it's shitty that Obi-Want doesn't remember Leia exists. Not that she is the "new hope" but he doesn't even seem to remember her at all!E.H. Ruddock wrote:Maybe leia never showed she was force sensitive. At least to obi wan’s knowledge
They've actually explored this in canon. Yoda believes Leia is "the chosen one" but OBK really thinks it's Luke. So it actually tracks really well and makes sense that he makes his comment to Yoda.
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I like the depiction of Kenobi as straight-up traumatized by the stuff that went down with Anakin
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Me too. I think it's super interesting and well done.Jorge wrote:I like the depiction of Kenobi as straight-up traumatized by the stuff that went down with Anakin
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My point is that there are times in the article where the writer gives praise/endorses ideas and criticizes others.epilogue wrote:Vader further tortures his former father-slash-brother figure with a bunch of hackneyed bullshit out of a second-tier mid-2000s superhero movie: “I am what you made me” and “You should have killed me when you had the chance.” James Earl Jones returns for this?
Sorry Coach but nothing about that quote seems "balanced."
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Coach wrote:My point is that there are times in the article where the writer gives praise/endorses ideas and criticizes others.epilogue wrote:Vader further tortures his former father-slash-brother figure with a bunch of hackneyed bullshit out of a second-tier mid-2000s superhero movie: “I am what you made me” and “You should have killed me when you had the chance.” James Earl Jones returns for this?
Sorry Coach but nothing about that quote seems "balanced."
I'll give it a read. Thanks.
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He didn't say Leia didn't exist. It's just that Luke's their only hope. She's worthless. So are all the other shitty Jedi running around. Fuckin' Ahsoka and Ezra, running around chasing space whales. Pfft!epilogue wrote:Oh totally. Canonically we know she can't show any obvious Force use for a few years. I just think it's shitty that Obi-Want doesn't remember Leia exists. Not that she is the "new hope" but he doesn't even seem to remember her at all!E.H. Ruddock wrote:Maybe leia never showed she was force sensitive. At least to obi wan’s knowledge
They've actually explored this in canon. Yoda believes Leia is "the chosen one" but OBK really thinks it's Luke. So it actually tracks really well and makes sense that he makes his comment to Yoda.
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Coolepilogue wrote:Coach wrote:My point is that there are times in the article where the writer gives praise/endorses ideas and criticizes others.epilogue wrote:Vader further tortures his former father-slash-brother figure with a bunch of hackneyed bullshit out of a second-tier mid-2000s superhero movie: “I am what you made me” and “You should have killed me when you had the chance.” James Earl Jones returns for this?
Sorry Coach but nothing about that quote seems "balanced."![]()
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I'll give it a read. Thanks.
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Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)
Is Vader toying with Obi-Wan at this point?
That get away was too easy. Vader could have put out that fire or crushed that robot or force choked that woman.
He did all those things in this episode, and any one of them would have ended Obi-Wan's escape.
That get away was too easy. Vader could have put out that fire or crushed that robot or force choked that woman.
He did all those things in this episode, and any one of them would have ended Obi-Wan's escape.
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B wrote:He didn't say Leia didn't exist. It's just that Luke's their only hope. She's worthless. So are all the other shitty Jedi running around. Fuckin' Ahsoka and Ezra, running around chasing space whales. Pfft!epilogue wrote:Oh totally. Canonically we know she can't show any obvious Force use for a few years. I just think it's shitty that Obi-Want doesn't remember Leia exists. Not that she is the "new hope" but he doesn't even seem to remember her at all!E.H. Ruddock wrote:Maybe leia never showed she was force sensitive. At least to obi wan’s knowledge
They've actually explored this in canon. Yoda believes Leia is "the chosen one" but OBK really thinks it's Luke. So it actually tracks really well and makes sense that he makes his comment to Yoda.
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I like to think that was a moment of "there's still good in him" coming out. That was how I read the scene.B wrote:Is Vader toying with Obi-Wan at this point?
That get away was too easy. Vader could have put out that fire or crushed that robot or force choked that woman.
He did all those things in this episode, and any one of them would have ended Obi-Wan's escape.
But it's also totally valid to read that as a cat/mouse thing. He said he wanted to torture Kenobi. So maybe he did let him go knowing full well he'd get him again.
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Yeah, they will meet again. Hard to believe Obi Wan got away in this instance, but didn't take away from the fire scene.epilogue wrote:I like to think that was a moment of "there's still good in him" coming out. That was how I read the scene.B wrote:Is Vader toying with Obi-Wan at this point?
That get away was too easy. Vader could have put out that fire or crushed that robot or force choked that woman.
He did all those things in this episode, and any one of them would have ended Obi-Wan's escape.
But it's also totally valid to read that as a cat/mouse thing. He said he wanted to torture Kenobi. So maybe he did let him go knowing full well he'd get him again.