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Meanwhile, on the farm:
McParadigm wrote:lol
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Boston is back!
And they say that a hero could save us
I'm not gonna stand here and wait
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Cora should have gone for two!
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:roll:

Blow it up.
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+1.
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Almost all of the guys that it makes sense to trade now are on the DL, this is a mess. Bloom has been here for 3 years now, can’t blame anything on Dombrowski anymore, this is his vision come to fruition. A shitty major league team with a middle of the road farm system, certainly not the “sustainable winning” pipe dream he sold.
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I'm skeptical of Bloom's abilities, but I don't think most of this is his fault.

Things I don't think he could control:
The Mookie trade
Sale's contract & frailty
Eovaldi's contract
Re-signing Schwarber, Bogaerts, Devers

Things he has determined:
The return in trades (other than Mookie)
The draft
Which FAs fit the owners/Kennedy's "vision"
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elliseamos wrote:I'm skeptical of Bloom's abilities, but I don't think most of this is his fault.

Things I don't think he could control:
The Mookie trade
Sale's contract & frailty
Eovaldi's contract
Re-signing Schwarber, Bogaerts, Devers

Things he has determined:
The return in trades (other than Mookie)
The draft
Which FAs fit the owners/Kennedy's "vision"
He could control what he could get for Mookie from the moment he took the job, he f’d it up by waiting until the last second when everyone knew he had a mandate.

Eovaldi has been a bargain, the idea that his was a bad contract has always been ludicrous.

He didn’t have to resign Schwarber, but he could have acquired a legitimate 1B at any point since he traded Mitch Moreland, but to this day has chosen not to.

I understand the constraints he is under from ownership, but even within those parameters, he has done a terrible job since coming here. He has made a couple good trades, but he has made 3 bad ones for every good and his track record on who to give money to and who not to has been atrocious thus far. For all the talk of how he was building this depth and sustainability blah blah blah, here we are 3 years into it and the major league team is mediocre and lacks depth, and the farm system is only marginally improved from where it was when he took over. He traded the core of a championship team away and has nothing to show for it, and his own vision for the team has been a disaster.
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I guess I see it differently.

I was also of the mind to be sellers last year instead of adding and making the run they did.
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LAST PLACE, yes!
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In order to build thru the draft, you have to have top 5 picks.
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elliseamos wrote:In order to build thru the draft, you have to have top 5 picks.
Nah, you just need good scouts.
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numbers wrote:
elliseamos wrote:In order to build thru the draft, you have to have top 5 picks.
Nah, you just need good scouts.
Nope. Tank for 4 years. Stock up. Then trade them when they get expensive.
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Yeah tanking is a great strategy for lazy front offices that don’t have good scouts. The baseball draft is a crapshoot, teams that tank do so because they want to spend less money, not because it’s a winning strategy.
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numbers wrote:Yeah tanking is a great strategy... The baseball draft is a... winning strategy.
Yup.
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I don’t understand what the point of even watching sports is if you don’t want the team to be good and wild prefer they lose on purpose yearly.
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numbers wrote:I don’t understand what the point of even watching sports is if you don’t want the team to be good and wild prefer they lose on purpose yearly.
Who said I prefer it? I'd just like them to admit they suck.
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elliseamos wrote:
numbers wrote:I don’t understand what the point of even watching sports is if you don’t want the team to be good and wild prefer they lose on purpose yearly.
Who said I prefer it? I'd just like them to admit they suck.
It hurts to see you guys fighting.
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Coach wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
numbers wrote:I don’t understand what the point of even watching sports is if you don’t want the team to be good and wild prefer they lose on purpose yearly.
Who said I prefer it? I'd just like them to admit they suck.
It hurts to see you guys fighting.
Calmer than he is.
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this sucks
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