Let's Talk About the 2000 Tour

[Wendy Carlos's Twin]

Man, I think the 2003 boots sound pretty bad.

I agree. They are very congested and overcooked.

The 2006 boots are an improvement but the 2000 boots have never been topped.

[VinylGuy]

I dont like how the bass and drums sound in 2000.

They fixed that in 2005 and 2006

[brisk]

Anyone? what was the 1st post a video link to?

[littlecomment]

Anyone? what was the 1st post a video link to?

https://web.archive.org/web/20111003100 ... MN4WaE7nOY

[Jammer XCI]

Got this today for free, should I actually listen to it?

[Tj]

One of my favorite

[liebzz]

Aren’t there two different ones? The second show is amazing, the first was was also good.

[sweeper]

One of them (think 2nd) was always on the top-ranked list from the tour.

[E.H. Ruddock]

Merging this to the appropriate thread that already exists

[Bammer]

Merging this to the appropriate thread that already exists

Mods?

[mikejasond]

I don't get what's so popular about this tour. I often hear songs from it and they're especially bad versions of the songs. Songs like Even Flow are lightning speed and tinny and Ed sounds awful. The guitars are clangy and there's no warmth. I hear live versions from 2006 where everything is quick and bombastic and sounds great, but the 2000 ones are just too cold to me, and everything sounds the same. I don't know. But I also don't like Binaural much. I don't like Riot Act either but love the 03 tour when I hear boots.

I mostly bring this up because I recently did that setlist generator thing on the PJ website and it put in live versions from 2000 like Even Flow and Daughter and they sounded really bad and completely broke the flow.

[Bammer]

I don't get what's so popular about this tour. I often hear songs from it and they're especially bad versions of the songs. Songs like Even Flow are lightning speed and tinny and Ed sounds awful. The guitars are clangy and there's no warmth. I hear live versions from 2006 where everything is quick and bombastic and sounds great, but the 2000 ones are just too cold to me, and everything sounds the same. I don't know. But I also don't like Binaural much. I don't like Riot Act either but love the 03 tour when I hear boots.

I mostly bring this up because I recently did that setlist generator thing on the PJ website and it put in live versions from 2000 like Even Flow and Daughter and they sounded really bad and completely broke the flow.

It’s the drums. Trust me.

[Monkey_Driven]

I don't get what's so popular about this tour. I often hear songs from it and they're especially bad versions of the songs. Songs like Even Flow are lightning speed and tinny and Ed sounds awful. The guitars are clangy and there's no warmth. I hear live versions from 2006 where everything is quick and bombastic and sounds great, but the 2000 ones are just too cold to me, and everything sounds the same. I don't know. But I also don't like Binaural much. I don't like Riot Act either but love the 03 tour when I hear boots.

I mostly bring this up because I recently did that setlist generator thing on the PJ website and it put in live versions from 2000 like Even Flow and Daughter and they sounded really bad and completely broke the flow.

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[liebzz]

Other than a few really good changes/extensions, the band plays the songs very straight on this tour. At least from a recording standpoint, and having attended two of the shows, it also is sort of the last tour where the songs from Ten through Binaural have that edge where there’s no sense of celebration behind the better known tracks. It never feels like a party, and more like a band driving their music forward. Even as soon as the Riot Act tour, the Ten/Vs./Vitalogy songs feel like an ode to a prior live era. I don’t know if that’s for better or worse.

[Norah]

Other than a few really good changes/extensions, the band plays the songs very straight on this tour. At least from a recording standpoint, and having attended two of the shows, it also is sort of the last tour where the songs from Ten through Binaural have that edge where there’s no sense of celebration behind the better known tracks. It never feels like a party, and more like a band driving their music forward. Even as soon as the Riot Act tour, the Ten/Vs./Vitalogy songs feel like an ode to a prior live era. I don’t know if that’s for better or worse.

Worse. It's for worse.

[VinylGuy]

Other than a few really good changes/extensions, the band plays the songs very straight on this tour. At least from a recording standpoint, and having attended two of the shows, it also is sort of the last tour where the songs from Ten through Binaural have that edge where there’s no sense of celebration behind the better known tracks. It never feels like a party, and more like a band driving their music forward. Even as soon as the Riot Act tour, the Ten/Vs./Vitalogy songs feel like an ode to a prior live era. I don’t know if that’s for better or worse.

I agree with this...most of the material from Ten to Vitalogy sounds restrained...i mean they actually played very short versions of Porch for example.

I love this tour anyway.

[Birds in Hell]

Other than a few really good changes/extensions, the band plays the songs very straight on this tour. At least from a recording standpoint, and having attended two of the shows, it also is sort of the last tour where the songs from Ten through Binaural have that edge where there’s no sense of celebration behind the better known tracks. It never feels like a party, and more like a band driving their music forward. Even as soon as the Riot Act tour, the Ten/Vs./Vitalogy songs feel like an ode to a prior live era. I don’t know if that’s for better or worse.

Worse. It's for worse.

100%

[liebzz]

Other than a few really good changes/extensions, the band plays the songs very straight on this tour. At least from a recording standpoint, and having attended two of the shows, it also is sort of the last tour where the songs from Ten through Binaural have that edge where there’s no sense of celebration behind the better known tracks. It never feels like a party, and more like a band driving their music forward. Even as soon as the Riot Act tour, the Ten/Vs./Vitalogy songs feel like an ode to a prior live era. I don’t know if that’s for better or worse.

Worse. It's for worse.

100%

I think the high point of Pearl Jam playing with that sort of original energy is the Yield tour. It seemed like they just had the secret sauce that tour, and that everything seemed fair game.

As far as the future tours would go, I love those shows with the same fervor, especially for me from 2003-2010, but get that it sort of went to a more celebratory mode, especially in the encores. I also really enjoyed the shows I heard mostly in 2016 and 2018. And that Leeds show in 2014 that is streaming is really great, but in an entirely different way. I sort of grew with them over the years from wild to that controlled intensity to the celebrations to the anything goes somewhat sloppy to what seemed like mostly upping their game in 2018.

[Wendy Carlos's Twin]

I don't get what's so popular about this tour. I often hear songs from it and they're especially bad versions of the songs. Songs like Even Flow are lightning speed and tinny and Ed sounds awful. The guitars are clangy and there's no warmth. I hear live versions from 2006 where everything is quick and bombastic and sounds great, but the 2000 ones are just too cold to me, and everything sounds the same.

You're kidding, right?

The guitars lost their bite and became wimpy and vanilla after 2000.

And Europe 2000 was the last time the bootlegs ever sounded "warm".

Try this?
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtop ... 15&t=14852

[coptheriotact]

I always just adjust the eq a little on all the boots and I can get a good sound out of everything up until 2008.

Usually just cutting a few db from 1k - 4k.

The 2000 boots are definaty “warm” sounding to me .