TV: Better Call Saul

[VinylGuy]

nah we already know a lot from those characters

Let the story move forward. And keep Jesse out of the picture.

And Skylar.

[Mecca]

Saul will show up on Mayor of Kingstown

[wease]

What a goddamn perfect ending.

[daft twat]

I'd watch FIVE FULL SEASONS of Better Call Saul in jail.

Absolutely.

Definitely think we’ll get this movie in 5 years.

[Bammer]

That was great and Saul will live like a king in prison.

[VinylGuy]

a king of pain

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[elliseamos]

Finale was very satisfying. The one criticism I have is that you must have watched all of Breaking Bad to understand what was going on, which hadn’t really been the case up until now.

They emphasized how horrible "meeting Walter White" was, but, yeah, it's left to the viewer to want to know more about just how horrible he was if they don't already know from watching BB.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[@SkitchP]

Finale was very satisfying. The one criticism I have is that you must have watched all of Breaking Bad to understand what was going on, which hadn’t really been the case up until now.

I actually agree with this.

I enjoyed the ending overall as a whole, but the last episode (even the last couple) leaned so much on the history of Saul Goodman from what he did in Breaking Bad more than anything he did in Better Call Saul. Nothing he really did on Saul would have landed him in any sort of actual criminal trouble... instead the end result of his story hinged on things that occured on another series ten years ago.

I do think the ending/resolution of the Jimmy and Kim story made up for that though. I really enjoyed that at the end of it, Jimmy was willing to give up everything to have Kim's respect back.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[Jorge]

I enjoyed the ending overall as a whole, but the last episode (even the last couple) leaned so much on the history of Saul Goodman from what he did in Breaking Bad more than anything he did in Better Call Saul. Nothing he really did on Saul would have landed him in any sort of actual criminal trouble... instead the end result of his story hinged on things that occured on another series ten years ago.

That's the tricky thing about bookending your prequel series with a sequel section. Still, it's not true that the ending wouldn't make sense or would be confusing to someone who hasn't watched Breaking Bad; all the relevant information is spelled out very clearly in the episode itself, at least in broad strokes (my evidence for this is that I watched it with someone who hasn't seen Breaking Bad and they were able to follow it just fine).

The Omaha stuff as a whole had to serve as an epilogue for both BCS and BB and I think they did a reasonably good job. Thematically and in terms of Jimmy and Kim's story, it wraps things up nicely. I loved the "three ghosts of Christmas" approach to the Mike/Walt/Chuck flashbacks, all pointing to the central theme of regret and the choices you can't unmake.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[Mecca]

What’s everyone’s time machine moment?

[Monkey_Driven]

I enjoyed the ending overall as a whole, but the last episode (even the last couple) leaned so much on the history of Saul Goodman from what he did in Breaking Bad more than anything he did in Better Call Saul. Nothing he really did on Saul would have landed him in any sort of actual criminal trouble... instead the end result of his story hinged on things that occured on another series ten years ago.

That's the tricky thing about bookending your prequel series with a sequel section. Still, it's not true that the ending wouldn't make sense or would be confusing to someone who hasn't watched Breaking Bad; all the relevant information is spelled out very clearly in the episode itself, at least in broad strokes (my evidence for this is that I watched it with someone who hasn't seen Breaking Bad and they were able to follow it just fine).

The Omaha stuff as a whole had to serve as an epilogue for both BCS and BB and I think they did a reasonably good job. Thematically and in terms of Jimmy and Kim's story, it wraps things up nicely. I loved the "three ghosts of Christmas" approach to the Mike/Walt/Chuck flashbacks, all pointing to the central theme of regret and the choices you can't unmake.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[Mecca]

I honestly do not care about people who watched BCS without seeing Breaking Bad first and felt a little lost.

[Jorge]

Yes but "broad strokes" isn't really great given the circumstances. Imagine if any other beloved show were to end with "You're now going to jail for partaking in these heinous crimes, none of which we ever showed nor otherwise communicated to the viewer during the entirety of our run!"

That would be weird. But as you know Better Call Saul is a pretty unique situation. If this other hypothetical show of yours was in a similar position (serving as a prequel, sequel, and inbetweenquel to a much, much bigger show with a much wider cultural impact) it would be comparable. I think pretending that Breaking Bad didn't exist to ensure that BCS conforms to some formalistic idea of sound storytelling architecture would've been silly, and pretending that audiences today aren't aware of it is also kind of a pointless exercise

[Monkey_Driven]

Yes but "broad strokes" isn't really great given the circumstances. Imagine if any other beloved show were to end with "You're now going to jail for partaking in these heinous crimes, none of which we ever showed nor otherwise communicated to the viewer during the entirety of our run!"

Where Jimmy and Kim wound up is all well and good; great event. But you guys are giving them a pass on some pretty clunky storytelling mechanics, IMO.

The black and white scenes have existed since episode one. The viewer doesn't need to know the specific crimes to figure out he did some pretty bad stuff to be living in a different state with a different identity.

[VinylGuy]

Im so glad they didnt explain or showed whatever Saul did in BB. So fucking glad....if you wanna know bout it, there is a whole series that tells that story.