General Education Topik

[elliseamos]

The tl;dr is tl;dr.

Can I move on to the next education discussion without sufficiently passing this conversation?

[Bi_3]

If everyone fails there is no disparate impact.

[BurtReynolds]

Do kids still get expelled? Probably too late to save the few students who can be from shitholes like Baltimore or Chicago, but it could stop the bleeding in other places.

[Mickey]

The cartoon man from Mississippi wants to opine about inner city education.

[BurtReynolds]

Mississippi public schools are probably in the unsalvageable category, sadly, though not nearly as disfunctional as the inner cities.

[tragabigzanda]

FUCK ICE

[Mickey]

A moment on the clicks, a lifetime on the entire American economy

[tragabigzanda]

FUCK ICE

[Bi_3]

Do kids still get expelled? Probably too late to save the few students who can be from shitholes like Baltimore or Chicago, but it could stop the bleeding in other places.

We are all 'restorative justice' now Burt.

[BurtReynolds]

Exceptional students at these public schools are basically left to fend for themselves because of self righteous do-gooders insisting that everyone succeed equally, even at the cost of those of higher merit (but at no cost to the moralist do-gooders, naturally.)

[simple schoolboy]

[BurtReynolds]

Well yeah, because getting rid of the tests was always about letting elite kids bypass pesky standards.

[simple schoolboy]

Exceptional students at these public schools are basically left to fend for themselves because of self righteous do-gooders insisting that everyone succeed equally, even at the cost of those of higher merit (but at no cost to the moralist do-gooders, naturally.)

Eliminating 8th grade Algebra feels a little bit handicapper general. Actively removing resources from high achieving kids so they don't pull too far away from their peers.

[elliseamos]

I'm trying to figure out the outrage meter.

Should they admit by diversity or not?

Apps overall are down, again.

Hard to get students to take on this expense and feel like joining the rat race is worth it.

[simple schoolboy]

I'm trying to figure out the outrage meter.

Should they admit by diversity or not?

Apps overall are down, again.

Hard to get students to take on this expense and feel like joining the rat race is worth it.

As predicted, test scores are the least bad measure of merit. These changes were almost exclusively to the benefit of the not bright children of the upper middle class.

[simple schoolboy]

American reading instruction is bad on purpose? I thought whole language learning was just a random fad that displaced phonics, but no, it's part and parcel of critical theory.

[elliseamos]

I'm trying to figure out the outrage meter.

Should they admit by diversity or not?

Apps overall are down, again.

Hard to get students to take on this expense and feel like joining the rat race is worth it.

As predicted, test scores are the least bad measure of merit. These changes were almost exclusively to the benefit of the not bright children of the upper middle class.

I mean, 3 yields ago it was because students couldn't take the test. Then schools enjoyed the opportunity to not use the scores. Now they've shifted to keeping them optional, but the real change is that Zoom recruitment sessions is not as effective as in-person fly in conversations.

[simple schoolboy]

I'm trying to figure out the outrage meter.

Should they admit by diversity or not?

Apps overall are down, again.

Hard to get students to take on this expense and feel like joining the rat race is worth it.

As predicted, test scores are the least bad measure of merit. These changes were almost exclusively to the benefit of the not bright children of the upper middle class.

I mean, 3 yields ago it was because students couldn't take the test. Then schools enjoyed the opportunity to not use the scores. Now they've shifted to keeping them optional, but the real change is that Zoom recruitment sessions is not as effective as in-person fly in conversations.

There were both pushes from "Junior doesn't test well" and DEI folx to make testing optional well before COVID. That accelerated things, for sure, but testing optional as a policy was not generally a pandemic pending thing, as few have rolled it back.

It has benefited the"Junior doesn't test well" crowd far more than those the DEI folx claim to advocate for. So, it was partially successful?

[Bi_3]

Rolling back the SAT/ACT is one thing... but the pushes to eliminate the MCAT and LSAT are going to have very serious consequences for society.

[elliseamos]

I'm trying to figure out the outrage meter.

Should they admit by diversity or not?

Apps overall are down, again.

Hard to get students to take on this expense and feel like joining the rat race is worth it.

As predicted, test scores are the least bad measure of merit. These changes were almost exclusively to the benefit of the not bright children of the upper middle class.

I mean, 3 yields ago it was because students couldn't take the test. Then schools enjoyed the opportunity to not use the scores. Now they've shifted to keeping them optional, but the real change is that Zoom recruitment sessions is not as effective as in-person fly in conversations.

There were both pushes from "Junior doesn't test well" and DEI folx to make testing optional well before COVID. That accelerated things, for sure, but testing optional as a policy was not generally a pandemic pending thing, as few have rolled it back.

It has benefited the"Junior doesn't test well" crowd far more than those the DEI folx claim to advocate for. So, it was partially successful?

Could be. But at the same time, when schools take dei into account during admissions there is outrage there, too.

Schools have elected to not require tests because they're comfortable with their yields the last few years.

The greater problem is the decrease in boys going to college and like I've said, they're finding it hard to convince kids to go.