Travel thread

[doug rr]

Spending next week in Portland. I hate Portland.

no you don't...you lived there and talk highly about it

[tragabigzanda]

Spending next week in Portland. I hate Portland.

no you don't...you lived there and talk highly about it

Yes i lived there for four years. By the the time I left, my opinion had soured. Time hasn't done it any favors.

[tree_]

maybe it was just your version of portland you hate, and now that you've changed, you may like it this time

[tragabigzanda]

I hated it when I left in 2005.

I hated it more when I visited intermittently between 2007-2010.

I hated it WAY more when I visited in 2014 and again in 2015.

I loathed it when I visited in 2017.

I hate Portland. There is good: transit, food, thriving arts & culture scene, easy access to nature. But the bad far outweighs the good, IMO.

[spike]

What’s the bad?

[tragabigzanda]

Rampant socioeconomic displacement and poverty enablement by the liberal ruling class, plus the embarrassing level of cognitive dissonance it takes for them to have created this community on their foundational ideals.

A homeless crisis second only to San Francisco. Crime. People pooping in the streets and nodding off on the bus.

Antifa.

The Decemberists.

[doug rr]

do you spend your weekends fly fishing with ted turner now?

[dad]

wow, i'm never going to portland.

[doug rr]

wow, i'm never going to portland.

i go to portland just to have a $3 breakfast at the marathon tavern with a beer at 7am...its a good time

[tragabigzanda]

do you spend your weekends fly fishing with ted turner now?

Technically no, but he allows public access to his ranch property and we go out there a couple times a year. I assume he's somewhere nearby.

[tree_]

[tragabigzanda]

wow, i'm never going to portland.

i go to portland just to have a $3 breakfast at the marathon tavern with a beer at 7am...its a good time

I will go to these three places while I'm there. The first one is new for me, the other two are old favorites:

https://www.jacquelinepdx.com/

https://pinestatebiscuits.com/

https://boxerramen.com/

[dad]

wow, i'm never going to portland.

i go to portland just to have a $3 breakfast at the marathon tavern with a beer at 7am...its a good time

hmmm...maybe portland isn't so bad after all.

[tragabigzanda]

wow, i'm never going to portland.

i go to portland just to have a $3 breakfast at the marathon tavern with a beer at 7am...its a good time

hmmm...maybe portland isn't so bad after all.

The food is easily some of the best in the country. It's the source of a deep psychological conflict for me.

[doug rr]

we have been in portland quite often over the last 10 years..we always hit this place up for dinner

https://caffemingonw.com/caffe-mingo-menu/

[dad]

wow, i'm never going to portland.

i go to portland just to have a $3 breakfast at the marathon tavern with a beer at 7am...its a good time

hmmm...maybe portland isn't so bad after all.

The food is easily some of the best in the country. It's the source of a deep psychological conflict for me.

i'm sure they've got great vegan options.

[tree_]

Is Portlandia accurate, trag?

[tragabigzanda]

There is a wolf in me . . . fangs pointed for tearing gashes . . . a red tongue for raw meat . . . and the hot lapping of blood—I keep this wolf because the wilderness gave it to me and the wilderness will not let it go.

There is a fox in me . . . a silver-gray fox . . . I sniff and guess . . . I pick things out of the wind and air . . . I nose in the dark night and take sleepers and eat them and hide the feathers . . . I circle and loop and double-cross.

There is a hog in me . . . a snout and a belly . . . a machinery for eating and grunting . . . a machinery for sleeping satisfied in the sun—I got this too from the wilderness and the wilderness will not let it go.

There is a fish in me . . . I know I came from salt-blue water-gates . . . I scurried with shoals of herring . . . I blew waterspouts with porpoises . . . before land was . . . before the water went down . . . before Noah . . . before the first chapter of Genesis.

There is a baboon in me . . . clambering-clawed . . . dog-faced . . . yawping a galoot's hunger . . . hairy under the armpits . . . here are the hawk-eyed hankering men . . . here are the blonde and blue-eyed women . . . here they hide curled asleep waiting . . . ready to snarl and kill . . . ready to sing and give milk . . . waiting—I keep the baboon because the wilderness says so.

There is an eagle in me and a mockingbird . . . and the eagle flies among the Rocky Mountains of my dreams and fights among the Sierra crags of what I want . . . and the mockingbird warbles in the early forenoon before the dew is gone, warbles in the underbrush of my Chattanoogas of hope, gushes over the blue Ozark foothills of my wishes—And I got the eagle and the mockingbird from the wilderness.

O, I got a zoo, I got a menagerie, inside my ribs, under my bony head, under my red-valve heart—and I got something else: it is a man-child heart, a woman-child heart: it is a father and mother and lover: it came from God-Knows-Where: it is going to God-Knows-Where—For I am the keeper of the zoo: I say yes and no: I sing and kill and work: I am a pal of the world: I came from the wilderness.

[spike]

Trag, did you move to Montana so you don’t have to see homeless people?

[Chris_H_2]

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