Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread

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Getaway
42
13%
Mind Your Manners
8
2%
My Father's Son
38
12%
Sirens
23
7%
Lightning Bolt
21
6%
Infallible
38
12%
Pendulum
88
27%
Swallowed Whole
21
6%
Let the Records Play
7
2%
Sleeping By Myself
7
2%
Yellow Moon
32
10%
Future Days
4
1%
 
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verb_to_trust wrote:So after reading that Chud and KD didn't really dig this so much I decided there wasn't much reason to wait for the vinyl to come next week.
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That was just for you, adamdude
Listened to the stream on itunes last night a few times. I will now bless you all with my thoughts.

The record starts off on the right foot with Getaway, even though the leads never quite seem to take off like you would want them to. Mike's tone specifically seems to have been in a downward spiral since Riot Act era. My Father's Son is also a nice little idea. I actually wish Ed would write from this sort of perspective more often. The bridge didn't bother me nearly as much as Ed not really selling the lyrics enough in my opinion. On a song like Footsteps or even Once he really sold you on that type of shit. Sirens is just terrible, overproduced, shit that actually makes Lightning Bolt seem like the hottest girl in the bar when its mercifully over. I trashed LB a lot after Wrigley but it really does sound much better on the record.

Infallible is fine. The chorus is fine. Not sure what people are freaking out about there. But if you listen to the BOB droppings too closely you start thinking you're playing Super Mario World. Pendulum is easily the most interesting song on the record to my ears. I am man enough to admit I was wrong about the weird music we got in that teaser vid being something a song would be based around. Stip and others were right to be excited by that. This is a pretty good example of Ed not screeching like a cat or fighting to get it back again. Its a 50 year old smokers sweet spot. It would be nice if he realized this and settled into this sort of a grove more consistently. I liked this song in the same way I liked Cold Confession so much.

Swallowed Whole is a missed opportunity. Mike really had a chance to stretch out on the lead. Not only does his guitar tone sound pretty thin on most of the record, but the solos just aren't interesting. Let The Records Play really sucks. Stone and Mike don't have what it takes to pull something like this off. They are just aping a style as a gimmick and doing a poor job of it. Is Mike's solo the same as SW? I can't tell as there is absolutely no way for me to tell his leads apart anymore.

Sleeping By Myself is lovely. Thank God the band didn't suffocate this or put BOB front and center with some xylophones or a kazoo....or recording himself slapping his tiny flaccid cock on a bongo or something. I'm totally fine with this being on the record and its probably in the top half of songs for me.

Yellow Moon was pretty disappointing. The acoustic guitars on this record sound pretty terrible. Not warm or thick enough. Everything is tinny. Mike was in Shadow though and sometimes we forget he sucks at things like "being original" and "tone". To be fair, this is the closest he comes to a good lead on the entire record. Eddie needs to realize that if you are going to sing a song about the moon you need to keep it simple. Think Gentle Moon by Sun Kil Moon......or Goodnight Moon, the children's book. I have no idea what he is going on about and apparently the moon is yellow. Whatever. Again, a missed opportunity.

A lot of people may think the piano at the beginning of Future Days is some wannabe Bruce Springteen shit that BOB came up with but its actually an old vault recording of Ed's first child being aborted from 1992. That's not an electric piano, its a doctor drumming his claws and hammers on the operating table while Jeremy plays on a radio the background Nip/Tuck style.....as the afterbirth splatters on the floor. This song sucks.

Its not a record I will be able to spin on vinyl and that sucks. There is just no way I can gut it through the completely terrible moments that exist here. The songs that I will probably listen to in the future are Getaway and Pendulum. I can see myself voluntarily listening to Infallible, SBS and MFS too. The real surprise here is that the 6th song that I don't actually hate is Lightning Bolt. The rest sucks or is totally forgettable.

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verb_to_trust wrote:
daft twat wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:I've reviewed the album. Can we just lock the thread now?
Not until you get your opinion right.
I thought I nailed it, bro

Spot on about Mikes guitar tones, no doubt.
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verb_to_trust wrote:
daft twat wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:I've reviewed the album. Can we just lock the thread now?
Not until you get your opinion right.
I thought I nailed it, bro
You called sbm lovely, but then went on to say it might be in the top half of songs on the album, which is fine, but it would appear that you hated more than half of the album, so why not just commit to sbm? Also, i could't tell for sure if you liked future days or just weren't sure yet.
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verb_to_trust wrote:A lot of people may think the piano at the beginning of Future Days is some wannabe Bruce Springteen shit that BOB came up with but its actually an old vault recording of Ed's first child being aborted from 1992. That's not an electric piano, its a doctor drumming his claws and hammers on the operating table while Jeremy plays on a radio the background Nip/Tuck style.....as the afterbirth splatters on the floor.
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This may have been said, but Yellow Moon give me this specific REM vibe: http://www.antiquiet.com/news/2010/12/r ... ned-today/
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Lament wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:So after reading that Chud and KD didn't really dig this so much I decided there wasn't much reason to wait for the vinyl to come next week.
Spoiler: show
That was just for you, adamdude
Listened to the stream on itunes last night a few times. I will now bless you all with my thoughts.

The record starts off on the right foot with Getaway, even though the leads never quite seem to take off like you would want them to. Mike's tone specifically seems to have been in a downward spiral since Riot Act era. My Father's Son is also a nice little idea. I actually wish Ed would write from this sort of perspective more often. The bridge didn't bother me nearly as much as Ed not really selling the lyrics enough in my opinion. On a song like Footsteps or even Once he really sold you on that type of shit. Sirens is just terrible, overproduced, shit that actually makes Lightning Bolt seem like the hottest girl in the bar when its mercifully over. I trashed LB a lot after Wrigley but it really does sound much better on the record.

Infallible is fine. The chorus is fine. Not sure what people are freaking out about there. But if you listen to the BOB droppings too closely you start thinking you're playing Super Mario World. Pendulum is easily the most interesting song on the record to my ears. I am man enough to admit I was wrong about the weird music we got in that teaser vid being something a song would be based around. Stip and others were right to be excited by that. This is a pretty good example of Ed not screeching like a cat or fighting to get it back again. Its a 50 year old smokers sweet spot. It would be nice if he realized this and settled into this sort of a grove more consistently. I liked this song in the same way I liked Cold Confession so much.

Swallowed Whole is a missed opportunity. Mike really had a chance to stretch out on the lead. Not only does his guitar tone sound pretty thin on most of the record, but the solos just aren't interesting. Let The Records Play really sucks. Stone and Mike don't have what it takes to pull something like this off. They are just aping a style as a gimmick and doing a poor job of it. Is Mike's solo the same as SW? I can't tell as there is absolutely no way for me to tell his leads apart anymore.

Sleeping By Myself is lovely. Thank God the band didn't suffocate this or put BOB front and center with some xylophones or a kazoo....or recording himself slapping his tiny flaccid cock on a bongo or something. I'm totally fine with this being on the record and its probably in the top half of songs for me.

Yellow Moon was pretty disappointing. The acoustic guitars on this record sound pretty terrible. Not warm or thick enough. Everything is tinny. Mike was in Shadow though and sometimes we forget he sucks at things like "being original" and "tone". To be fair, this is the closest he comes to a good lead on the entire record. Eddie needs to realize that if you are going to sing a song about the moon you need to keep it simple. Think Gentle Moon by Sun Kil Moon......or Goodnight Moon, the children's book. I have no idea what he is going on about and apparently the moon is yellow. Whatever. Again, a missed opportunity.

A lot of people may think the piano at the beginning of Future Days is some wannabe Bruce Springteen shit that BOB came up with but its actually an old vault recording of Ed's first child being aborted from 1992. That's not an electric piano, its a doctor drumming his claws and hammers on the operating table while Jeremy plays on a radio the background Nip/Tuck style.....as the afterbirth splatters on the floor. This song sucks.

Its not a record I will be able to spin on vinyl and that sucks. There is just no way I can gut it through the completely terrible moments that exist here. The songs that I will probably listen to in the future are Getaway and Pendulum. I can see myself voluntarily listening to Infallible, SBS and MFS too. The real surprise here is that the 6th song that I don't actually hate is Lightning Bolt. The rest sucks or is totally forgettable.

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daft twat wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
daft twat wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:I've reviewed the album. Can we just lock the thread now?
Not until you get your opinion right.
I thought I nailed it, bro
You called sbm lovely, but then went on to say it might be in the top half of songs on the album, which is fine, but it would appear that you hated more than half of the album, so why not just commit to sbm? Also, i could't tell for sure if you liked future days or just weren't sure yet.
I listed six songs I don't hate.

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What's strange about recent PJ (and incidentally I enjoy Backspacer, LB I find to be their first turd) is that they've insinuated they want to write more radio friendly songs that remind people of why they like the band. Well OK, but if that really is what they want to do this Just Breathe/Future Days/Sleeping By Myself shit isn't what the "old fans" want. They want the PJ of Ten and Vs. If they really want the old mojo back they need to be writing riff heavy classic rock anthems. I'm not saying I personally want them to do this but if becoming musically relevant to the mainstream really is their goal they are going about it all wrong.
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verb_to_trust wrote:
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You should just be grateful that they're still around making music. It's not easy rising from the ashes of Mother Love Bone to become grunge survivors.
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theplatypus wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:A lot of people may think the piano at the beginning of Future Days is some wannabe Bruce Springteen shit that BOB came up with but its actually an old vault recording of Ed's first child being aborted from 1992. That's not an electric piano, its a doctor drumming his claws and hammers on the operating table while Jeremy plays on a radio the background Nip/Tuck style.....as the afterbirth splatters on the floor.
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Its brendan o brien saying that shit kind of. I think the band is more comfortable with writing more straight up melodies and being back on the radio because they feel they have something to say and want people to listen. Socially conscious rock isnt on the radio so I think they feel that could be their gimmick.

The you put BOB on there and he gets hornier than a priest in a pre school.

The combination is deadly. I think he's brain washed them. Take him out of the equation and you are going to get even better songs.
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Fucking great record (Bob`s piano off)
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Jeff really owns this record.
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scrub12 wrote:Jeff really owns this record.
i doubt he had to pay for his copy.
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spike wrote:
scrub12 wrote:Jeff really owns this record.
i doubt he had to pay for his copy.
He seems like an honest guy, bet he buys one just to feel good about it.
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spike wrote:
scrub12 wrote:Jeff really owns this record.
i doubt he had to pay for his copy.
Nah they gave him all of the copyright, he literally OWNS it
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Seeing some nice light mocking of the 'middle years' thing. But I get it, no one likes to be boxed in and pegged and generalized, me included, cause it's never the 100% truth when generalizations like that are used. But there's a kernel of truth to it if you think the following 2 things: 1) PJ has not been as good since "X" album and/or 2) that your opinion is the objective truth and no one can think the last 3 records are better than a previous era, cause there's just no way that is possible.
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random early thoughts..

the first 2 tracks are my fav on the cd w getaway being my overall fav

my fathers son is better than i thought it would be based on the tracks title

i wanna say sirens is my least fav track.. o wait, let the records play..

i would really like the title track if it wasnt for the chorus/title.. lightning bolt in itself is kinda lame to me.. plus its like pulling a nas/too $hort n rehashing lines from old songs that were awesome

i kinda like infallible and swallowed whole.. infallibles kinda different n im good w it.. i wasnt a huge fan of sw after the mini leak but it grew on me

sleeping by myselfs ok but i like the eddie version better.. this shoulda been a xmas single track or somethin..

i need more time w pendulum n yellow moon, i dunno what to think yet.. what i do know is that whoever said they sound like pink floyd def needs to listen to more pink floyd..

i actually dont hate future days studio like i thought i would after hearing the chicago boot.. its actually not bad.. not awesome, but not the trainwreck i first thought..

cold confession and of the earth would def be the 2 best songs on this if they put em on, thing is i dunno if they fit in w these songs

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There is some good shit going on in this thread... real good shit. The best shit I've seen in a while. Much better than some of my shits. Even better than some of the best shits that i have, you know, the ones that are extra juicy and shitty. Good shit
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I'm now leaning towards Yellow Moon being the best song
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