The Future of the GOP

[elliseamos]

Protect the border? With Idaho?

There's a meth epidemic in eastern MT that can be traced to the border.

Oh, eastern MT. Fuck the Dakotas! BUILD THAT WALL!! AND MAKE WYOMING PAY FOR IT!!

[wease]

I’m not understanding what the split is about. Trump is pushing McCarthy
but it’s his loyal MAGA minions that are holding out. Don’t get me wrong,
I’m all for the GOP falling apart, but I just don’t get why it’s happening over this.

[Bammer]

More team burt than not. The audacity of elected representatives standing up for their constituents' (admittedly batshit) ultra-con beliefs!

That assumes these people give a fuck what their constituents want or need. In my experience, Republicans are generally going to choose power grab over constituent wishes whenever that is a choice.

B, do you truly believe that approach is unique to Republicans and not applicable to all politicians in general?

Come on, man.

[B]

More team burt than not. The audacity of elected representatives standing up for their constituents' (admittedly batshit) ultra-con beliefs!

That assumes these people give a fuck what their constituents want or need. In my experience, Republicans are generally going to choose power grab over constituent wishes whenever that is a choice.

B, do you truly believe that approach is unique to Republicans and not applicable to all politicians in general?

Come on, man.

Yes, Bammer, I do. I think a few Democrats have been guilty of it over the years, but it is the repeated and unending policy of the Republican party. And now it has fucked them.

[B]

More team burt than not. The audacity of elected representatives standing up for their constituents' (admittedly batshit) ultra-con beliefs!

That assumes these people give a fuck what their constituents want or need. In my experience, Republicans are generally going to choose power grab over constituent wishes whenever that is a choice.

MT Rep. Matt Rosendale is an ultra-con, and he is one of the guys blocking McCarthy. He's a loon. He's also managed to convince the majority of eastern MT that he has their best interests at heart. IMO, it's not really up to him to pivot and do anything other than the stuff they elected him to do (divert tax dollars to private schools, "protect the border," fight Biden's spending agenda, develop fossil fuels, etc). If they want him to do something different, they'll have to let their voices be heard...

Granted, he's a slippery fuck who's skilled at doublespeak to obscure the details of his policies. But generally speaking, here in MT, there's no real divergence between his grab for power and the wishes of his constituents.

That's great for his 500,000 constituents, but if it fucks the other 331,500,000 Americans we're not really in a Democracy anymore are we?

[BurtReynolds]

That's not how representative democracy works.

[BurtReynolds]

More team burt than not. The audacity of elected representatives standing up for their constituents' (admittedly batshit) ultra-con beliefs!

That assumes these people give a fuck what their constituents want or need. In my experience, Republicans are generally going to choose power grab over constituent wishes whenever that is a choice.

B, do you truly believe that approach is unique to Republicans and not applicable to all politicians in general?

Come on, man.

Yes, Bammer, I do. I think a few Democrats have been guilty of it over the years, but it is the repeated and unending policy of the Republican party. And now it has fucked them.

[B]

That's not how representative democracy works.

Via compromise and cooperation for the benefit of the public good?

[BurtReynolds]

That's not how representative democracy works.

Via compromise and cooperation for the benefit of the public good?

no, you fucking communist.

[Bammer]

More team burt than not. The audacity of elected representatives standing up for their constituents' (admittedly batshit) ultra-con beliefs!

That assumes these people give a fuck what their constituents want or need. In my experience, Republicans are generally going to choose power grab over constituent wishes whenever that is a choice.

B, do you truly believe that approach is unique to Republicans and not applicable to all politicians in general?

Come on, man.

Yes, Bammer, I do. I think a few Democrats have been guilty of it over the years, but it is the repeated and unending policy of the Republican party. And now it has fucked them.

Come on, man.

[Bi_3]

That's not how representative democracy works.

Via compromise and cooperation for the benefit of the public good?

What constitutes the "public good" for folks who can walk to Prospect Park is likely quite different from folks in rural Montana.

[tragabigzanda]

FUCK ICE

[B]

That's not how representative democracy works.

Via compromise and cooperation for the benefit of the public good?

What constitutes the "public good" for folks who can walk to Prospect Park is likely quite different from folks in rural Montana.

We agreed to be a country, so we're gonna have to figure it out. "Everything I want or I walk," ain't gonna get it done.

[Bi_3]

That's not how representative democracy works.

Via compromise and cooperation for the benefit of the public good?

What constitutes the "public good" for folks who can walk to Prospect Park is likely quite different from folks in rural Montana.

We agreed to be a country, so we're gonna have to figure it out. "Everything I want or I walk," ain't gonna get it done.

Welcome to normie centrism. Took a decade and 15k posts, but I knew you'd come around.

[Coach]

I understand the House can't operate until it picks a speaker and that the number of votes to get there is historic, but this thing is going to be finalized within a week and then they can go back to work. Not sure it's really all that embarrassing and I am far from a Republican apologist.

[B]

I understand the House can't operate until it picks a speaker and that the number of votes to get there is historic, but this thing is going to be finalized within a week and then they can go back to work. Not sure it's really all that embarrassing and I am far from a Republican apologist.

Does that mean it's OK for us to laugh at Republican dysfunction again?

[B]

Do you think he was lying about his name too?

[Bi_3]

Do you think he was lying about his name too?

needs one of these:

[BurtReynolds]

Where does this myth come from that these people work? This is all more or less automated.

Or, alternatively, are they not working now? Isn't part of their job using leverage to get what they want?

I just hope they can put this behind them, come together, and start "working" for their corporate donors, soon.

[Chris_H_2]

whomever ends up being speaker besides mccarthy doesn't really matter (they'll be under constant threat from the whack jobs). but i just want to see mccarthy's staff have to wheel everything back out of the speaker's office when this is done, and it will all be worth it.