HBO Television Show: True Detective

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i can see how burt would grate against a show whose main protagonist is an autodidact, contemptuous of the masses, and draws on some of the worst philosophers & philosophic traditions to form a "idiosyncratically" homespun worldview
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It seems like it was written just for me, but it was so very, very dumb. I'd rather just go re-read Conspiracy Against The Human Race.
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tragabigzanda wrote:My only real problem with S2 is the plot structure. There’s an event halfway through that serves as a reset of the chessboard and they should’ve just started the plot from there (or truncated episodes 1-3 into a single pilot episode)
Same problem with Season 1.
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Cohle does have some great lines about Louisiana/East Texas being a soul sucking hellhole unfit for human life, though.
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Should I watch this?
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lennytheweedwhacker wrote:Should I watch this?
Yeah
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BurtReynolds wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:Should I watch this?
Yeah
Thanks burt.
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Let me know when you've seen it so we can compare notes.
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BurtReynolds wrote:Let me know when you've seen it so we can compare notes.
Cool.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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VV is completely out of his element in TD2. But it's not his fault. That's all the writing.

The other three are fucking incredible, though.
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tragabigzanda wrote:Vince Vaughn alone is worth the watch for S2
Sorry, but nothing in the history of Vince Vaughn is worth watching just for him. Horrible actor
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muttuphalfdead wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Vince Vaughn alone is worth the watch for S2
Sorry, but nothing in the history of Vince Vaughn is worth watching just for him. Horrible actor
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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tragabigzanda wrote:Hard disagree. Vaughn is great when he does dramatic. There’s a plucky pathos to him that’s so unique. He looks almost insane at times.

If we’re talking who got shafted on the writing, I’d say that’s more Taylor Kitsch
The writing all around is lacking. But Rachel and Colin are fucking great at their jobs, so you barely notice.

It hurts VV the most, though. And he deserves all the credit in the world for trying to make choices and overcome all his obstacles. He just doesn't quite clear the bar.

Kitsch isn't as good an actor as Vaughn. And the show doesn't ask him to carry as much. So he manages to pull off the sleight of hand better than Vince.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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tragabigzanda wrote:
epilogue wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Hard disagree. Vaughn is great when he does dramatic. There’s a plucky pathos to him that’s so unique. He looks almost insane at times.

If we’re talking who got shafted on the writing, I’d say that’s more Taylor Kitsch
The writing all around is lacking. But Rachel and Colin are fucking great at their jobs, so you barely notice.

It hurts VV the most, though. And he deserves all the credit in the world for trying to make choices and overcome all his obstacles. He just doesn't quite clear the bar.

Kitsch isn't as good an actor as Vaughn. And the show doesn't ask him to carry as much. So he manages to pull off the sleight of hand better than Vince.
Agreed on everything but the bold part. Good insights Joe.
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You're absolutely right about Vaughn in more dramatic material, though. I like when he stretches from his own shtick. Have you seen The Cell (2000)?
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BurtReynolds wrote:Since everyone goes on about how brilliant season 1 is despite the fact that it sucks, maybe I should give season 2 a try, since everyone hates that one.
S1 is some of the best tv ever made


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BurtReynolds wrote:Since everyone goes on about how brilliant season 1 is despite the fact that it sucks
r u stupid
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