Song of the Moment: My Father's Son

harmless · Post by **harmless** » Thu October 10, 2013 3:40 pm

mray10 wrote:
harmless wrote:OK, for all that I understand the clash of light/dark isn't working for some people, why does the bridge keep getting described as "Hawaiian / carnival / circus" music? I've seen these descriptions everywhere and found them weird, but also really quite specific. Can anyone explain? Are these just words for "light and happy" or is it more?
I can hear what people are hearing when they call it "island" music. I guess it's the steel guitar sound or whatever. But I really think it's just trying to be bright in contrast to the rest of the song.

In theory, I have no problem with that. Musically, the bridge is the one part of this song I haven't really made peace with yet, however.

Two of you addressed this but I can't quote both so... yeah, I can see your points. The reason it's still kick-ass for me is that the rhythm is crazy, the time-signature changes, which makes it similar to the Evacuation bridge, one of my favourite parts of any PJ song ever. That off-kilter rhythm counteracts the poppiness and makes it slightly more weird. So it's not so much bubblegum as tangy/sour sweets.

melonhead4 · Post by **melonhead4** » Thu October 10, 2013 4:09 pm

prl wrote:That bridge kinda ruins the song for me.. all the rest, verses and chorus, have a really nice groove (both instrumental and vocals) and suddenly from nowhere comes that bridge that makes me feel like I just landed in Hawaii or something.

Yea that was my opinion at first too but now i dont mind it all and can see how it fits the theme of the song.....Id call it a bi polar song

melonhead4 · Post by **melonhead4** » Thu October 10, 2013 4:10 pm

If anyone in the PJ reads this forum...PLEASE release this at the next single...it would sh1t all over any other rock single out there...

melonhead4 · Post by **melonhead4** » Thu October 10, 2013 4:14 pm

camp^

mikejasond · Post by **mikejasond** » Thu October 10, 2013 4:22 pm

Why does he rhyme "son" with "line". Huh....? I love the whole song except that part in the first verse. The other verses rhyme so why not that one...?

dprival78 · Post by **dprival78** » Thu October 10, 2013 4:36 pm

mikejasond wrote:Why does he rhyme "son" with "line". Huh....? I love the whole song except that part in the first verse. The other verses rhyme so why not that one...?

that is a little awkward.. but at least he gets it out of the way early.

harmless · Post by **harmless** » Thu October 10, 2013 4:39 pm

dprival78 wrote:
mikejasond wrote:Why does he rhyme "son" with "line". Huh....? I love the whole song except that part in the first verse. The other verses rhyme so why not that one...?
that is a little awkward.. but at least he gets it out of the way early.

It's a half-rhyme, but... yeah.

mray10 · Post by **mray10** » Thu October 10, 2013 5:36 pm

The shot of the lyrics page for this one confirms that he is saying "5th Symphony," but I could really make out the entire verse.

Post by **stip** » Thu October 10, 2013 5:43 pm

harmless wrote:
mray10 wrote:
harmless wrote:OK, for all that I understand the clash of light/dark isn't working for some people, why does the bridge keep getting described as "Hawaiian / carnival / circus" music? I've seen these descriptions everywhere and found them weird, but also really quite specific. Can anyone explain? Are these just words for "light and happy" or is it more?
I can hear what people are hearing when they call it "island" music. I guess it's the steel guitar sound or whatever. But I really think it's just trying to be bright in contrast to the rest of the song.

In theory, I have no problem with that. Musically, the bridge is the one part of this song I haven't really made peace with yet, however.
Two of you addressed this but I can't quote both so... yeah, I can see your points. The reason it's still kick-ass for me is that the rhythm is crazy, the time-signature changes, which makes it similar to the Evacuation bridge, one of my favourite parts of any PJ song ever. That off-kilter rhythm counteracts the poppiness and makes it slightly more weird. So it's not so much bubblegum as tangy/sour sweets.

there's a kind of madness to it which fits the song. Like a brief pause where the pyschopath goes to his happy place to escape the father hovering over his shoulder. But it's a pretty dark circus of the damned kind of place.

Rival had elements of it. they're pushed further here then they were there.

Lounge Lizard · Post by **Lounge Lizard** » Thu October 10, 2013 7:20 pm

harmless wrote:I've not read either book, by the way, so I have no idea what's referencing what, or why.

You can't graduate from our schools unless you've read Master and Margarita

Chris_H_2 · Post by **Chris_H_2** » Thu October 10, 2013 7:50 pm

I think this rivals Pilate as my favorite PJ bridge.

stupidmop · Post by **stupidmop** » Thu October 10, 2013 7:57 pm

stip wrote:
harmless wrote:
mray10 wrote:
harmless wrote:OK, for all that I understand the clash of light/dark isn't working for some people, why does the bridge keep getting described as "Hawaiian / carnival / circus" music? I've seen these descriptions everywhere and found them weird, but also really quite specific. Can anyone explain? Are these just words for "light and happy" or is it more?
I can hear what people are hearing when they call it "island" music. I guess it's the steel guitar sound or whatever. But I really think it's just trying to be bright in contrast to the rest of the song.

In theory, I have no problem with that. Musically, the bridge is the one part of this song I haven't really made peace with yet, however.
of you addressed this but I can't quote both so... yeah, I can see your points. The reason it's still kick-ass for me is that the rhythm is crazy, the time-signature changes, which makes it similar to the Evacuation bridge, one of my favourite parts of any PJ song ever. That off-kilter rhythm counteracts the poppiness and makes it slightly more weird. So it's not so much bubblegum as tangy/sour sweets.

there's a kind of madness to it which fits the song. Like a brief pause where the pyschopath goes to his happy place to escape the father hovering over his shoulder. But it's a pretty dark circus of the damned kind of place.

Rival had elements of it. they're pushed further here then they were there.

Rival has a demented circus kinda vibe, if they had done that here it would have been amazing.

That said yeah, the dudes taking a minute to breathe, before he loses it again. I think its supposed to represent mood swings.

Lounge Lizard · Post by **Lounge Lizard** » Thu October 10, 2013 7:58 pm

Chris_H_2 wrote:I think this rivals Pilate as my favorite PJ bridge.

Oh no, Pilate's bridge is superior.
But this is a better song still.

stupidmop · Post by **stupidmop** » Thu October 10, 2013 7:59 pm

Wtf is going on with my post?

EJ · Post by EJ » Thu October 10, 2013 8:03 pm

I really hope they've been rehearsing the crap out of this song for the tour.

Lounge Lizard · Post by **Lounge Lizard** » Thu October 10, 2013 8:05 pm

EJ wrote:I really hope they've been rehearsing the crap out of this song for the tour.

I hope they brush up on their MYM too because their last live take was embarrassing

Chris_H_2 · Post by **Chris_H_2** » Thu October 10, 2013 8:20 pm

Lounge Lizard wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:I think this rivals Pilate as my favorite PJ bridge.
Oh no, Pilate's bridge is superior.
But this is a better song still.

Rivals, not exceeds . . .

harmless · Post by **harmless** » Thu October 10, 2013 8:21 pm

stupidmop wrote:Wtf is going on with my post?

page not found

stupidmop · Post by **stupidmop** » Thu October 10, 2013 8:23 pm

harmless wrote:
stupidmop wrote:Wtf is going on with my post?

page not found

It's sad about the page I didn't put there not being found.

Maybe I clicked the vine button by mistake.

OmegaprimeVKM · Post by **OmegaprimeVKM** » Thu October 10, 2013 9:25 pm

The first line of the chorus is a shameless rip off of "Arms Aloft"

This track is awful, by the way. A hotchpotch of unfinished brainfart ideas juxtaposed together. It doesn't even flow or culminate into anything coherent.

It certainly gets my vote for soonest to be forgotten from this album - I'd be surprised to see it as a live staple. This album's Johnny Guitar.

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