Lightning Bolt: The Official Album Thread
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But, how many Ks?
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All or None is kind of boring. I do think it's better than Future Days, though. Not those other songs.solace wrote:best PJ closer post '00 for me... stunning/gorgeous song... not cheesy dreck like Sirens, Future Days, Just Breathe, The End, etc.PHATJ wrote:Opinions do be different, yo. I like a lot of these new crop very much. I couldn't give two shits about All or None.solace wrote:holy shit. which ones? it has not a single one for me... the highest would be Pendulum at a 4.5/5 and Getaway 4/5Release_Me wrote: LB has five 5 star songs
their last 5/5 song for me would be 'All or None' 10 years ago
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The End defines boring PJ ballads for me. and Just Breathe has Ed's annoying "awwwww huhhhhh"stip wrote: All or None is kind of boring. I do think it's better than Future Days, though. Not those other songs.
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solace wrote:not really.. 5/5 = essentially a perfect song that you have zero complaints about, of which that hasn't happened for a decade with mestip wrote:how can any song from Binaural or Riot Act be 5 stars compared to that?solace wrote:Coach wrote:People have lost their minds.
For example, Release is a 5-star song. How can any song on LB be a 5-star song when compared to that? Ya gotta grade your PJ on a curve, people!![]()
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Even within the 5 star range there's lots of room.
I don't know if any songs on here will be 5 stars. But quite a few will come close.
well shit, Corduroy is my second favorite pearl jam song and I have some minor complaints.
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My Father's Son would be good if the lyrics weren't so fuckin obvious. You don't use the word psychpath in a song, you describe him.
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solace wrote:The End defines boring PJ ballads for me.stip wrote: All or None is kind of boring. I do think it's better than Future Days, though. Not those other songs.
We should have some kind of duel to settle this definition.
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DeLima wrote:My Father's Son would be good if the lyrics weren't so fuckin obvious. You don't use the word psychpath in a song, you describe him.
that's a rocky start, for sure.
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then it shouldn't be considered a perfect song imostip wrote: well shit, Corduroy is my second favorite pearl jam song and I have some minor complaints.
i guess we just have different views on that
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Considering my name here is 'Release_Me', I would know when I grade something a 5 that it should stand up to songs like that. And the ones I think are 5 star songs on LB really do. This isn't the relative ranking that some people throw around based on the assumption that nothing post 2000 can touch the 90s stuff, or whatever. This is what these songs make me feel, on an absolute level. They stand up to the best ones, for me. I would get it if they don't for others, but I can only write what I feel.Coach wrote:Opinions are great and I'm expressing mine. It's art. I understand. No right or wrong.Juvenal wrote:Opinions be different, yo?Coach wrote:People have lost their minds.
For example, Release is a 5-star song. How can any song on LB be a 5-star song when compared to that? Ya gotta grade your PJ on a curve, people!
I think that when you rate a song a "5" or a "4" or even a "1" you've got to look how you've rated similar PJ songs in that category and ask yourself: "Do these belong in the same recognition or category?"
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i'm being very generous in saying this album is a 6.5-7/10
but that said, it's still not even in my top 40 albums for 2013 at this point...
but that said, it's still not even in my top 40 albums for 2013 at this point...
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That's my thoughts too.stip wrote:All or None is kind of boring. I do think it's better than Future Days, though. Not those other songs.solace wrote:best PJ closer post '00 for me... stunning/gorgeous song... not cheesy dreck like Sirens, Future Days, Just Breathe, The End, etc.PHATJ wrote:Opinions do be different, yo. I like a lot of these new crop very much. I couldn't give two shits about All or None.solace wrote:holy shit. which ones? it has not a single one for me... the highest would be Pendulum at a 4.5/5 and Getaway 4/5Release_Me wrote: LB has five 5 star songs
their last 5/5 song for me would be 'All or None' 10 years ago
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Why is it so hip to constantly be dumping on O'Brien? The dude didn't demand his name be printed big in the liner notes.
Also, where's his credit for the good songs? People dump on him for "Future Days," but was he not in the studio for "Getaway" or "Pendulum"?
Also, he produced the band's best work, so...perhaps the blame for the bad shit lies mostly with the band. They're the ones who allow everything to happen. If they trust the bad ideas of their producer, that's their own fault.
Let's not forget "In Hiding" has fucking piano all over it.
Also, where's his credit for the good songs? People dump on him for "Future Days," but was he not in the studio for "Getaway" or "Pendulum"?
Also, he produced the band's best work, so...perhaps the blame for the bad shit lies mostly with the band. They're the ones who allow everything to happen. If they trust the bad ideas of their producer, that's their own fault.
Let's not forget "In Hiding" has fucking piano all over it.
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You guys are easy graders.
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benton netty wrote:Why is it so hip to constantly be dumping on O'Brien? The dude didn't demand his name be printed big in the liner notes.
Also, where's his credit for the good songs? People dump on him for "Future Days," but was he not in the studio for "Getaway" or "Pendulum"?
Also, he produced the band's best work, so...perhaps the blame for the bad shit lies mostly with the band. They're the ones who allow everything to happen. If they trust the bad ideas of their producer, that's their own fault.
Let's not forget "In Hiding" has fucking piano all over it.
probably not.
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boring is one of the worst musical critiques one can make btw.PHATJ wrote: That's my thoughts too.
plenty of music i (and many other) love can be considered "boring"
too many people equate slow with boring these days
be more creative. my .02
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Release has too much hurr durr going on to be 5*.
Binaurals got 5*s up the wazoo!
Binaurals got 5*s up the wazoo!
Maybe he's a weirdly self aware psychopath.My Father's Son would be good if the lyrics weren't so fuckin obvious. You don't use the word psychpath in a song, you describe him.
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True story: when you're grading each song 1-5, each number has to have its own spectrum. There's no way you can give hundreds and hundreds of PJ songs a score from 1-5 without further clarification and disagreement. You'd need to score them from 1-50, maybe.
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I find it difficult to judge using star ratings because, for me, there's often a difference between what I love and what I classify as brilliant. It's why Ten is my favourite but I view Vitalogy as PJ's "best". A heart/head division, perhaps.
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ok, 1/10 thenharmless wrote:True story: when you're grading each song 1-5, each number has to have its own spectrum. There's no way you can give hundreds and hundreds of PJ songs a score from 1-5 without further clarification and disagreement. You'd need to score them from 1-50, maybe.
so... in that case, there's nothing on this album higher than an 8.5/10 for me (Pendulum being the high water mark)
the lowest would be Future Days at 4/10, Let The Records Play 4.5/10, Sleeping By Myself 5/10, Sirens 6/10
how's that?
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