tragabigzanda wrote:But are they guaranteed to be better seats or something? This industry has become vile.
I'm sure there will be a smattering. But yes. I'm sure some GA seats will be available, lower bowl by stage etc.
Yea it's awful. Truly
let's be fair. the band is doing this -- not the industry -- and they don't have to.
They industry as whole, which includes them, yes is doing it
the destroyer tickets that my sister and i have for this weekend didn't have a premium option. your framing of this change to some bands' pricing policies obscures the fact that not every band does this, but pearl jam does
That's not a fair comparison at all. And I'm not saying every band does it. Seems like most bands at pjs level are doing it now.
Destroyer are playing at Otto bar in Baltimore. Your classic local haunt that serves take out food and bar games.
you're right, they are not similar bands, but they are in the same industry.
all im saying is your framing is wrong. I don't know why you're insisting on this sleight of hand of redescrbing the dynamics for some successful artists as "an industry wide reality."
Industry wide in difficulty and increased costs of touring. Tons of articles out there
that's totally fair: there is an industry-wide difficult in touring. my point was simply that this particular solution to that problem isn't industry-wide.
but trag makes a strong case for why market dynamics at a certain level of success (bands who tour arenas) would make this dynamic unavoidable.
Jorge wrote:I remember I was in Miami when it happened. I was posting from the balcony of my apartment overlooking the beach. And I was having an argument with Adamdude.
tragabigzanda wrote:But are they guaranteed to be better seats or something? This industry has become vile.
I'm sure there will be a smattering. But yes. I'm sure some GA seats will be available, lower bowl by stage etc.
Yea it's awful. Truly
let's be fair. the band is doing this -- not the industry -- and they don't have to.
They industry as whole, which includes them, yes is doing it
the destroyer tickets that my sister and i have for this weekend didn't have a premium option. your framing of this change to some bands' pricing policies obscures the fact that not every band does this, but pearl jam does
That's not a fair comparison at all. And I'm not saying every band does it. Seems like most bands at pjs level are doing it now.
Destroyer are playing at Otto bar in Baltimore. Your classic local haunt that serves take out food and bar games.
you're right, they are not similar bands, but they are in the same industry.
all im saying is your framing is wrong. I don't know why you're insisting on this sleight of hand of redescrbing the dynamics for some successful artists as "an industry wide reality."
Industry wide in difficulty and increased costs of touring. Tons of articles out there
that's totally fair: there is an industry-wide difficult in touring. my point was simply that this particular solution to that problem isn't industry-wide.
but trag makes a strong case for why market dynamics at a certain level of success (bands who tour arenas) would make this dynamic unavoidable.
Perhaps if bands at Pearl Jam’s level did tours that were more than 9 shows long, the tours would be more cost effective.
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Jorge wrote:I remember I was in Miami when it happened. I was posting from the balcony of my apartment overlooking the beach. And I was having an argument with Adamdude.
Chris_H_2 wrote:Wait. Destroyer is touring? I thought it was Dan Bejar solo. Crap.
yeah mate. my back is so utterly fucked that i will likely miss it. in evanston at space
Jorge wrote:I remember I was in Miami when it happened. I was posting from the balcony of my apartment overlooking the beach. And I was having an argument with Adamdude.
For the first time in my fandom - I actually maybe feel bad for the Jamily. If pj really kept those sections closest to the stage for premium tickets and shoved the fan club behind that.....
Well g dangit I think I might finally have a gripe with the band
Strat wrote:For the first time in my fandom - I actually maybe feel bad for the Jamily. If pj really kept those sections closest to the stage for premium tickets and shoved the fan club behind that.....
Well g dangit I think I might finally have a gripe with the band
I’m sure Ed’s to the point where if Springsteen does it, then it’s ok for Pearl Jam to do it.
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I think about this way: if someone told me that after decades of their concerts being part of my life I had the opportunity to go see my favorite band one last time, the last chance I will ever get to see them in my life, would I turn it down because my seats were in the uppers?
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Bi_3 wrote:I think about this way: if someone told me that after decades of their concerts being part of my life I had the opportunity to go see my favorite band one last time, the last chance I will ever get to see them in my life, would I turn it down because my seats were in the uppers?
Not sure that this is at all relevant to what’s being pointed out.
Bi_3 wrote:I think about this way: if someone told me that after decades of their concerts being part of my life I had the opportunity to go see my favorite band one last time, the last chance I will ever get to see them in my life, would I turn it down because my seats were in the uppers?
Not sure that this is at all relevant to what’s being pointed out.
I'll translate the discontent over seating allocations to lawyer speak:
"The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
Bi_3 wrote:I think about this way: if someone told me that after decades of their concerts being part of my life I had the opportunity to go see my favorite band one last time, the last chance I will ever get to see them in my life, would I turn it down because my seats were in the uppers?
Not sure that this is at all relevant to what’s being pointed out.
I'll translate the discontent over seating allocations to lawyer speak:
but where's the fun in not bitching? it's what we do best.
is there a more under-sexed fanbase in rock n roll than pearl jam's army of wma blackshirts?
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