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Excited to hear how this is better than a Teach For America approach where basically any sufficiently motivated college graduate is expected to create better outcomes than whatever this is.
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I have to agree with him:
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And although, yes, TFA gets more people in the door teaching students, it exacerbates the problem that teachers aren't paid enough. Which we've covered here previously.
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elliseamos wrote:And although, yes, TFA gets more people in the door teaching students, it exacerbates the problem that teachers aren't paid enough. Which we've covered here previously.

Thoughts?

https://www.economist.com/united-states ... o-teachers
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Without the ability to read more than the first paragraph, I think they've realized that paying teachers is a good idea. It doesn't matter if it's Rs or Ds in charge of a state.
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Surprised it took this long:

Schools Are Ditching Homework, Deadlines in Favor of ‘Equitable Grading’:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/schools-ar ... g-dcef7c3e
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It's a tricky one. Not sure what the article says...

Homework often inflates grades for some so the actual skills and knowledge are misrepresented.

But at the same time, it can deflate grades for some despite the student having demonstrated skills and knowledge on other assignments.
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Are we going past affinity groups in clubs to classes as affinity groups?
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Following the thread it looks like this is about "coding" who's in the class for data analysis purposes.

Still stupid since you can get the data points elsewhere, but yeah, context.
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elliseamos wrote:Following the thread it looks like this is about "coding" who's in the class for data analysis purposes.

Still stupid since you can get the data points elsewhere, but yeah, context.
The only thing that makes sense would be to reserve x number of seats for black/ Hispanic kids. I don't recall classes at my highschool being significantly impacted, and I rather doubt they are running out of seats in their Calc AB class, but who knows.

Whatever they are doing is super ham handed.
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Yes, it's a stupid way of doing whatever it is that they're doing.
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simple schoolboy wrote:
elliseamos wrote:Following the thread it looks like this is about "coding" who's in the class for data analysis purposes.

Still stupid since you can get the data points elsewhere, but yeah, context.
The only thing that makes sense would be to reserve x number of seats for black/ Hispanic kids. I don't recall classes at my highschool being significantly impacted, and I rather doubt they are running out of seats in their Calc AB class, but who knows.

Whatever they are doing is super ham handed.
Was it done for other classes as well?
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simple schoolboy wrote:
elliseamos wrote:Following the thread it looks like this is about "coding" who's in the class for data analysis purposes.

Still stupid since you can get the data points elsewhere, but yeah, context.
The only thing that makes sense would be to reserve x number of seats for black/ Hispanic kids. I don't recall classes at my highschool being significantly impacted, and I rather doubt they are running out of seats in their Calc AB class, but who knows.

Whatever they are doing is super ham handed.
Was it done for other classes as well?

Algebra 2, but only for "Latinx", which makes it somewhat more confusing.

https://www.eths.k12.il.us/Page/3025

Edit: Precal as well, Black and Latinx course codes

Is someone running a "priming" study for kids IDing as certain ethnicities at registration? Can't imagine that would get past the IRB.

Edit2: is this why public education costs so much? Maybe this is a large school district but that's a huge number of math classes. Could some of these be better served by being taught at the local community college?
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simple schoolboy wrote:
elliseamos wrote:Following the thread it looks like this is about "coding" who's in the class for data analysis purposes.

Still stupid since you can get the data points elsewhere, but yeah, context.
The only thing that makes sense would be to reserve x number of seats for black/ Hispanic kids. I don't recall classes at my highschool being significantly impacted, and I rather doubt they are running out of seats in their Calc AB class, but who knows.

Whatever they are doing is super ham handed.
Was it done for other classes as well?

Algebra 2, but only for "Latinx", which makes it somewhat more confusing.

https://www.eths.k12.il.us/Page/3025

Edit: Precal as well, Black and Latinx course codes

Is someone running a "priming" study for kids IDing as certain ethnicities at registration? Can't imagine that would get past the IRB.

Edit2: is this why public education costs so much? Maybe this is a large school district but that's a huge number of math classes. Could some of these be better served by being taught at the local community college?

Definitely intended to be segregated courses: https://thespectator.com/topic/illinois ... -township/

“While open to all students, this optional section of the course is intended to support students who identify as Latinx,”
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Stupid.
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elliseamos wrote:Stupid.
Isn't the theory that placing low SES kids with high SES kids, the former benefit to some extent? If your racially segregated groups are disproportionately low SES isn't that likely to their detriment?

I guess that goes out the window when the psychic burden of having to interact with whiteness causes the students to undertake excessive emotional labor.
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Huh.
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Stupid.
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