America..why won't you just ban the fucking gun?

JuanHamm · Post by **JuanHamm** » Mon May 08, 2023 8:24 pm

Seems like a reasonable guy

Bi_3 · Post by **Bi_3** » Mon May 08, 2023 8:29 pm

Have they explained how this guy got the gun?

spike · Post by **spike** » Mon May 08, 2023 9:48 pm

Oh, you know.

Bi_3 · Post by **Bi_3** » Mon May 08, 2023 10:31 pm

spike wrote:Oh, you know.

I don’t. Some good may have come from this looks like they might raise the age to buy in Texas

Stickman · Post by **Stickman** » Mon May 08, 2023 11:09 pm

Bi_3 wrote:Have they explained how this guy got the gun?

With the greatest of ease I assume.

Bi_3 · Post by **Bi_3** » Tue May 09, 2023 1:23 am

Finally caught up on this. I’ve never seen manic right wing bullshit pumped out so fast as with this tragedy.

JuanHamm · Post by **JuanHamm** » Tue May 09, 2023 10:48 am

https://www.sunherald.com/news/nation-w ... 97271.html

Another cowardly boomer shoots a kid for playing in his yard.

Higgs · Post by **Higgs** » Wed May 10, 2023 2:19 am

Stickman wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:Have they explained how this guy got the gun?
With the greatest of ease I assume.

Almost all via private sale apparently.

simple schoolboy · Post by **simple schoolboy** » Wed May 10, 2023 2:46 am

Higgs wrote:
Stickman wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:Have they explained how this guy got the gun?
With the greatest of ease I assume.
Almost all via private sale apparently.

He was actually a prohibited person? Working as a security guard?

Higgs · Post by **Higgs** » Wed May 10, 2023 2:54 am

simple schoolboy wrote:
Higgs wrote:
Stickman wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:Have they explained how this guy got the gun?
With the greatest of ease I assume.
Almost all via private sale apparently.
He was actually a prohibited person? Working as a security guard?

Apologies - I don't understand the US laws around private gun sales. Are you saying that if he was in some way a "prohibited person" he shouldn't be able to purchase a gun, even via private sale?

simple schoolboy · Post by **simple schoolboy** » Wed May 10, 2023 3:17 am

Higgs wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
Higgs wrote:
Stickman wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:Have they explained how this guy got the gun?
With the greatest of ease I assume.
Almost all via private sale apparently.
He was actually a prohibited person? Working as a security guard?
Apologies - I don't understand the US laws around private gun sales. Are you saying that if he was in some way a "prohibited person" he shouldn't be able to purchase a gun, even via private sale?

No, he could've bought in a private sale as a prohibited person. Either he chose to go the private sale route because he was a prohibited person or it's irrelevant.

Only licensed dealers can access the background check system, so in a private sale the only due diligence you can really do is check their ID. This is both a feature for those that don't want a paper trail and a bug (for those that want to screen potential buyers).

Higgs · Post by **Higgs** » Wed May 10, 2023 3:18 am

simple schoolboy wrote:
Higgs wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
Higgs wrote:
Stickman wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:Have they explained how this guy got the gun?
With the greatest of ease I assume.
Almost all via private sale apparently.
He was actually a prohibited person? Working as a security guard?
Apologies - I don't understand the US laws around private gun sales. Are you saying that if he was in some way a "prohibited person" he shouldn't be able to purchase a gun, even via private sale?
No, he could've bought in a private sale as a prohibited person. Either he chose to go the private sale route because he was a prohibited person or it's irrelevant.

Only licensed dealers can access the background check system, so in a private sale the only due diligence you can really do is check their ID. This is both a feature for those that don't want a paper trail and a bug (for those that want to screen potential buyers).

Yep, that makes as much sense as everything else re: US gun laws. Thanks for the info.

simple schoolboy · Post by **simple schoolboy** » Wed May 10, 2023 3:29 am

Higgs wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
Higgs wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
Higgs wrote:
Stickman wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:Have they explained how this guy got the gun?
With the greatest of ease I assume.
Almost all via private sale apparently.
He was actually a prohibited person? Working as a security guard?
Apologies - I don't understand the US laws around private gun sales. Are you saying that if he was in some way a "prohibited person" he shouldn't be able to purchase a gun, even via private sale?
No, he could've bought in a private sale as a prohibited person. Either he chose to go the private sale route because he was a prohibited person or it's irrelevant.

Only licensed dealers can access the background check system, so in a private sale the only due diligence you can really do is check their ID. This is both a feature for those that don't want a paper trail and a bug (for those that want to screen potential buyers).
Yep, that makes as much sense as everything else re: US gun laws. Thanks for the info.

Do you have specific info that it was private sale? Building his own guns wouldn't be much more work, and similarly no paperwork.

Higgs · Post by **Higgs** » Wed May 10, 2023 3:36 am

simple schoolboy wrote:Do you have specific info that it was private sale? Building his own guns wouldn't be much more work, and similarly no paperwork.

Only what I heard on a youtube news video this morning, apologies can't be more specific. They definitely said that of the various guns he had "most" were sourced from private sales. Also that he was discharged from the army on "mental" grounds.

Stickman · Post by **Stickman** » Fri May 12, 2023 4:33 pm

8-year-old brings loaded gun to elementary school; district bans backpacks

elliseamos · Post by **elliseamos** » Sat May 13, 2023 12:09 am

The only way to stop a bad guy with a backpack is to ban backpacks!... oh, wait...

Stickman · Post by **Stickman** » Wed May 17, 2023 12:32 am

New Mexico shooter roamed area with at least three guns

Stickman · Post by **Stickman** » Wed May 17, 2023 1:54 am

Texas boy, 12, charged with fatally shooting Sonic employee

Stickman · Post by **Stickman** » Fri May 19, 2023 4:17 pm

Man walks around with assault rifle at school bus top

Stickman · Post by **Stickman** » Tue May 23, 2023 11:01 pm

10 dead after gunmen open fire at car rally in Baja California

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