Ukraine

[Anders]

Have seen some positive news about the offensive a few places, but overall, and especially according to war mapper, the progress seems to be very small.

[elliseamos]

[elliseamos]

This guy, Kamil, is all over the "production deficit" topic.

[96583UP]

every general worth a snot in history knew that widespread mining of your territory held reflects an expectation of long term success!

[elliseamos]

This guy, Kamil, is all over the "production deficit" topic.

[Bi_3]

uuuuhhhhh...........

[elliseamos]

Dammit!

[96583UP]

i think the fallout is only supposed to spread 30km though?

[elliseamos]

i think the fallout is only supposed to spread 30km though?

For how many years?

[simple schoolboy]

The US is finally going to send cluster munitions. Are we running out of conventional rounds to send, or did something change the PR calculations?

[spike]

My buddy sent this from Switzerland. Bezos is sending reinforcements.

[Bi_3]

The US is finally going to send cluster munitions. Are we running out of conventional rounds to send, or did something change the PR calculations?

This does seem a bit problematic, but there are definitely those who believe we can defeat Russia via UKR without making BRICS into a military alliance.

[simple schoolboy]

The US is finally going to send cluster munitions. Are we running out of conventional rounds to send, or did something change the PR calculations?

This does seem a bit problematic, but there are definitely those who believe we can defeat Russia via UKR without making BRICS into a military alliance.

I think the unexploded ordinance concerns are entirely overhyped. Every single affected field is already full of unexploded Soviet era ordinance that will need to be cleared. Adding a few of these to the mix doesn't really change the workload of clearing these areas.

I also suspect Ukrainian farmers would much rather drive over one of these in their tractor than a unitary 122 or 152mm shell.

I do think passing laws that say X action is prohibited unless the President thinks it's important is a dumb way to run things. Bring it to a vote, you cowardly Congress critters.

[dimejinky99]

Cluster bombs. Pretty much every armed nation in earth is agreed not to use them.
And here we are.

War will end at some point and Ukrainians will be still getting killed by ordnance for decades to come.

Cambodia and Vietnam and Laos still riddled by thousands of similar unexploded bombs dropped by the US and deaths every year because of them.

This is the point global opinion turns against US involvement and supporting Ukraine.
An idiotic move employing cluster bombs

[simple schoolboy]

Cluster bombs. Pretty much every armed nation on earth is agreed not to use them prepared to fight a peer still has them.

[96583UP]

The US is finally going to send cluster munitions. Are we running out of conventional rounds to send, or did something change the PR calculations?

i read an article a month or so back that basically said the US has a shitload of them, they were approaching their 'use-by' date or would expire; and given that Russia has been using them like mad, and Ukraine could benefit from them in the trenches, and the West / US has already provided a shitload of non-cluster munitions which has begun to strain our own stockpiles and supply chain, and Russia is not relenting in this war - that we might as well give them to Ukraine rather than depleting our remaining non-cluster stocks more

ATACMS next ?

[96583UP]

sounds like 'two track' negotiations with Russia are positioning the potential peace deal as creating a DMZ

[simple schoolboy]

sounds like 'two track' negotiations with Russia are positioning the potential peace deal as creating a DMZ

It seems to be consistent with their rhetoric (civilians in Donetsk shelled for 8 years).

[dimejinky99]

[Anders]

If the Russians are using a lot of them in Ukraine, it’s insane for Ukraine not to have the same opportunity. Need F16s asap as well.

Get Russia out of Ukraine.