Song of the Moment: Infallible

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So is this the first LB song to get the half step-down treatment live?
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There's an almost impossibly high and sustained note at the end of this.
One I haven't heard him attempt since 'the safest place' line in Dissident.
I'm ok with it being dropped down.
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I can't get this one out of my head this morning
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Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:I can't get this one out of my head this morning
Same here, been humming that chorus since I woke up.
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How was this not the single?
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dimejinky99 wrote:There's an almost impossibly high and sustained note at the end of this.
One I haven't heard him attempt since 'the safest place' line in Dissident.
I'm ok with it being dropped down.
I don't mind what he does with the vocal, live, but I'd prefer they didn't tune the whole song down. I'm glad they haven't with this one.
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Listening to this one again now

So good
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Shaun Jam wrote:So is this the first LB song to get the half step-down treatment live?
my vote is getaway
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dprival78 wrote:
Shaun Jam wrote:So is this the first LB song to get the half step-down treatment live?
my vote is getaway
They already did it with My Father's Son. They didn't downtune this one.
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I only listened to the live MFS once but i didnt notice any downtuning. Are we sure?


Also, why does that bother people?
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Yup, they played it down a key.

It's only a bit irritating because it gives the song a different feel than it has on the album. Luckily it didn't diminish MFS too much, but it has killed the mood of songs before. I say if you can't sing it at the right key, record it lower.
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Yeah Getaway might get that treatment too. Sleeping By Myself if they ever play it? It'll probably sound like the Ukulele Songs version live. :D
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Strat wrote:I only listened to the live MFS once but i didnt notice any downtuning. Are we sure?
i thought it may have been, but i wasn't really sure.. i thought eddie was just kind of holding back, but that it wasn't tuned down. i'll have to listen again.
Strat wrote: Also, why does that bother people?
it bothered me a bit with the backspacer stuff. to me, if eddie can't sing something in a higher register without studio "help", then i'd prefer they didn't record it. or, just drop the key on the studio version. it makes it seem a little.. not phony - that's too harsh, but.. i don't know what word i want to use.
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Na, it's phony. I don't want a more polished performance on a CD than he can manage live.
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harmless wrote:Na, it's phony. I don't want a more polished performance on a CD than he can manage live.
Too bad, 'cause that's what you'll always get.
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theplatypus wrote:
harmless wrote:Na, it's phony. I don't want a more polished performance on a CD than he can manage live.
Too bad, 'cause that's what you'll always get.
:lol:

The statement was far too generalised. I know, they'll use studio trickery to make Ed sound nice, and he can sound as rough as he wants live, as long as they don't have to play all the songs in a different key so he can sing them. That in particular is what I meant.
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But hey, I'll take the rough with the smooth as long as I like an album.
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Strat wrote: Also, why does that bother people?
It just makes the song feel "off" to me when I'm at the show. Like something's not quite right. Then I realize they dropped the tuning and I can kinda settle into it. But if I'm listening to a boot and a dropped song comes on I skip it because it just doesn't sound right.
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I could care less as long as the final live product sounds good
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