Will he be a Hall of Famer?

[spike]

Who will be the inaugural Thomas Brady Super Bowl Most Valuable Player Award winner?

[Simple Torture]

Who will be the inaugural Thomas Brady Super Bowl Most Valuable Player Award winner?

Not Adam Vinatieri.

[4/5]

Bammer spitting facts.

[philpritchard]

He's probably in for more defense.

I think as the years go on you'll see an adjustment on how players are rated in terms of hall of fame worthiness. Are careers trending shorter? Will rules changes (like this coming years pitch clock and no infield shifts) affect player stats?

Yeah, in general I don't think defense is valued nearly enough, especially at non-up-the-middle positions. Rolen is easily one of the best defensive players of all time, and his 122 wRC+ is tied with Kirby Puckett and Paul Molitor.

Rolen was always a no-brainer for me, but I'm still a bit surprised he got in.

what are you feelings on omar vizquel?

I don't think he's particularly close. The best comparable I can think of is Ozzie Smith, but Smith was WAY better at everything.

Vizquel's case looks better on the surface than it really is because he played for forever and got close to some offensive milestones.

He was fun to watch, though.

[lennytheweedwhacker]

Antonio Gates

[Chris_H_2]

1,000,000% yes

[Monkey_Driven]

Lebron James

[lennytheweedwhacker]

Lebron James

I’d say yes if not for the steroids and meth

[lennytheweedwhacker]

Freddie Freeman?

[Bammer]

Freddie Freeman?

Well they have to induct someone. I mean look at the 2023 class.

So, probably, yeah.

[Simple Torture]

Freddie Freeman?

He’s older than I thought he was, which matters because I don’t think he’s there just yet, but he’s been pretty healthy over his career, so I imagine he’s got some years left. Maybe if he squeezes out another MVP and gets to 400 HRs and 3000 hits? Counting stats still do seem to matter to the HOF. He could also certainly end up with a career WAR over 75, which is higher than quite a few HOFers.

[Bammer]

If he retired today:

Mike Trout?
Jose Altuve?
Aaron Judge?
Shohei Ohtani?

[lennytheweedwhacker]

Just Trout

[Bammer]

Known cheater Jose Altuve, who is still shy of 2000 hits, was described by the Mariners broadcaster as a sure HOF’er today.

I dunno man. He seems like the kinda guy that needs to get 3000 hits for consideration. Maybe I’m biased because FUCK the Astros, but that’s 6 more years of his career average 161 hits per season.

He’s not getting my vote.

[lennytheweedwhacker]

I think he will get in

[Bammer]

Just Trout

High praise for a guy who has the same number of gold gloves and playoff appearances as me

[lennytheweedwhacker]

Just Trout

High praise for a guy who has the same number of gold gloves and playoff appearances as me

Good thing those aren’t the only two standards

[Bammer]

Just Trout

High praise for a guy who has the same number of gold gloves and playoff appearances as me

Good thing those aren’t the only two standards

Welcome, Mike Trout, to the Hall of Very Good

[lennytheweedwhacker]

Just Trout

High praise for a guy who has the same number of gold gloves and playoff appearances as me

Good thing those aren’t the only two standards

Welcome, Mike Trout, to the Hall of Very Good

lol right

[The Argonaut]

Just Trout

High praise for a guy who has the same number of gold gloves and playoff appearances as me

You've played in 3 ALDS games!?