dimejinky99 wrote:Anders wrote:Although at some point this current conflict will probably end, it is very difficult to see long term solutions that all parts will accept, that will put an end to the trouble.
A two state solution seemed the most likely a long time. Israel has done more to ruin that than the Palestinians.
Maybe a one state solution, with Hamas outlawed is the way forward. Every law abiding citizen able to live in peace. The Jews must be guaranteed an important place in the government of the state, since there is a high likelihood, that Muslims will outnumber them in the long run. Current homes and land ownership must be accepted by all. A united army and police force.
In the short term, I think this is still far from over. Hamas is still in power in Gaza, still holding hostages. A ground invasion is probably the only thing that can change that.
I’ve posted clips in this thread over years and years showing ordinary Palestinians being thrown out of their houses or watching their farms and olive groves burned by IDF and as official Israeli policy. Removed so the property can be taken over by Jewish settlers. Who are usually American as it happens.
They will not be happy until they have eradicated all Palestinians completely.
It’s really that simple.
As with Putin, he wants Ukraine. But he wants it completely without any Ukrainians in it.
But somehow what he’s doing is an evil and Israel is just fine to get on doing exactly the same thing.
My ideal solution for Ukraine is for Russia to get out of Ukrainian land, possibly after Putin dies. Russia have guaranteed for the Ukrainian borders in historical deals, and then suddenly invaded the country last year. Even pro-Russians can only come up with stuff like the expansion of NATO to other countries as a good reason.
I don’t know what your ideal solution to the war in Ukraine is, although likely the same as mine. If we do get a peace deal with Putin in charge, Ukraine will probably have to give up a lot of land. Then a few years down the line, Russia will find another reason, and invade more land. This has also displaced millions of people, half a million Ukrainians reported dead, hundreds (possibly thousands) of women have been raped. It’s a massive tragedy, and no wonder it has dominated the news the last two years. Sadly it is far from over.
The two conflicts are horrible, but also very different.
Israel and Palestine is an old conflict, but we can not disregard what the UN decided, and the situation on the ground after the five day war.
If you think of an ideal solution, I assume you want a lot more for the Palestinians than what is likely, no matter who is in charge of Israel.
If you think of a negotiated settlement to end the conflict for good, then what is your solution?
