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«At least 24 U.S. troops were hurt amid a wave of attacks on their bases in Iraq and Syria over the past week, including one incident that caused injuries to 20 personnel, officials said Tuesday.»

« One network in particular, the Islamic Resistance in Iraq, has taken credit for at least 11 attacks on U.S. troops so far, according to the Washington Institute. The group first appeared in the aftermath of Hamas’s attacks on Israel, and is an umbrella organization for a number of key Iranian-backed groups in Iraq, says Michael Knights, an expert in militias in Iraq and Syria at the Washington Institute.»
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Anders wrote:«At least 24 U.S. troops were hurt amid a wave of attacks on their bases in Iraq and Syria over the past week, including one incident that caused injuries to 20 personnel, officials said Tuesday.»

« One network in particular, the Islamic Resistance in Iraq, has taken credit for at least 11 attacks on U.S. troops so far, according to the Washington Institute. The group first appeared in the aftermath of Hamas’s attacks on Israel, and is an umbrella organization for a number of key Iranian-backed groups in Iraq, says Michael Knights, an expert in militias in Iraq and Syria at the Washington Institute.»

That’s just mad. Any kind of attack like that previously would have seen hell unleashed as a US response. I get they don’t want to get involved and kick the whole thing off and they’re clearly being goaded in these attacks. This can’t end well.
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dimejinky99 wrote:What he means to say is they’re currently bombing hospitals and using a bogey premise and shit graphic to do so


Hamas has done this before: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/mi ... story.html

It get's even better (from 2014):

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news ... a-revealed

"The Israelis are so sure about the location of the Hamas bunker, however, not because they are trying to score propaganda points, or because it has been repeatedly mentioned in passing by Western reporters—but because they built it. Back in 1983, when Israel still ruled Gaza, they built a secure underground operating room and tunnel network beneath Shifa hospital—which is one among several reasons why Israeli security sources are so sure that there is a main Hamas command bunker in or around the large cement basement beneath the area of Building 2 of the Hospital, which reporters are obviously prohibited from entering."


As I was saying. This is just being promoted as justifying striking a hospital that thousands of people are sheltering in.


Best in mind just the other day Israel denied striking hospitals. (They’ve hit nearly 20 at this point)
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‘for the pentagon to pull back their advisors who are now going to the mediasaying that they have nothing to do with whatever the IDF and Netanyahu’s government are about to do in Gaza should tell you whatever is transpiring is genocide on an industrial scale.’

News: USMC Lt. Gen. James Glynn, dispatched by Pentagon to advise Israel on risks inherent in an invasion of Gaza Strip, has returned to the US.
"Make no mistake: what is, has or will unfold in Gaza is purely an Israeli decision." -USC
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That’s terrifying
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Apologies to Dime, but this is related and Insane:
We should have removed the nukes after that fake coup situation. They were holding US servicemen hostages back then and still do today. We should have pulled out everything after the S-400 thing, but could not do so because we inexplicably have bases in Syria.

Sure, keep a couple jet delivered nukes in Germany or any other NATO country that we don't regret the membership of. Turkey? With this government? Why?
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That guy and indeed whole country, have always been a liability. Now it’s a threat.

Still bombing Syria daily by the way.
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dimejinky99 wrote:That guy and indeed whole country, have always been a liability. Now it’s a threat.

Still bombing Syria daily by the way.
Pretty much everyone agrees some portion of Syria out to be bombed, they just disagree on the specifics.
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simple schoolboy wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:That guy and indeed whole country, have always been a liability. Now it’s a threat.

Still bombing Syria daily by the way.
Pretty much everyone agrees some portion of Syria out to be bombed, they just disagree on the specifics.

I have a pal there right now doing aid. He’s there and back every few weeks. I can send you his social if you wanna have a look. The whole shitshow in Syria obviously doesn’t get any coverage. It’s me interesting insight into it
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Jesus Christ, dime. When do you sleep?
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wease wrote:Jesus Christ, dime. When do you sleep?

Long story.
Not much any more is the short version.
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Former PM Naftali Bennett explained the Israeli strategy. It’s long, but a good read if you are willing to try to understand what Israel is doing.


The Gaza siege plan
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Siege of Gaza, suffocation of Hamas operatives in tunnels, and occupation of a security strip inside Gaza until Hamas surrenders, the demilitarization of the strip and the release of the abductees.
*Not to act in the way that Hamas expects us to act and prepared for*

*Publicizing the siege plan scares and stresses Hamas leaders and will be a catalyst to bring about results*
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base assumption:
- For 15 years, Hamas prepared a vast tunnel system, an underground state, precisely against the entry of Israeli forces.

- When Hamas carried out Black Sabbath, it was exactly expecting a "cast lead" style ground response and the other operations.

- Hamas is counting on us entering every bunker and every tunnel with tweezers in order to exact a heavy blood price from us.

- Iran, Hezbollah and Hamas want us to invest many forces deep in the Gaza Strip so that we have fewer forces available for another campaign, in the north and also in Judea and Samaria and more.

- Hamas wants us to get involved during the entry, which will force us to cause heavy collateral damage of killing Gazan children, etc., so that the world will force us to stop.

- Hamas has probably removed many assets, including leadership and commanders to the south of the Gaza Strip, leaving simple activists in the north of the Gaza Strip to quarrel with us.
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- ** We must not act according to the expectation of Hamas **
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The siege plan for Hamas in northern Gaza:
1. To surprise *and not go deep into the Gaza Strip as Hamas expects us to do*, but to impose a complete siege on the north of the Gaza Strip, dry up and suffocate the Hamas terrorists in the tunnels until they are forced to leave.
2. To create a new security strip 2 km deep into the territory of the strip along our entire border, a permanent strip. This is through the use of massive firepower and ground forces, and engineering. Imagine bulldozers simply leveling the area.
3. Continuously use firepower on Hamas all over the Strip. Israel conducts a continuous series of targeted ground operations with enormous firepower, to separate neighborhood from neighborhood from Hamas. There is no need to hunt down every Hamasnik in a hole and a tunnel.
4. The residents of Gaza stay in the southern half of the Strip or outside the Strip until the end of the war: when Hamas disarms unilaterally and releases all the hostages. This, of course, according to international law, to preserve their lives. Countries around the world can take in the refugees—temporarily, of course—until Hamas surrenders and the war ends. Between 6 months and 5 years.
5. In the south of the Gaza Strip, humanitarian corridors are allowed, and we allow (but do not give ourselves): water, food, medicine. This is as required by international law.
6. Do not allow any drop of fuel to enter the entire strip. Without fuel there are no tunnels because there is no ventilation and no lighting. Every drop that enters the Gaza Strip goes to Hamas. Fuel = fighting. So not a bit.
7. Strategic patience: make the passing time work in our favor. We have all the time in the world.
8. After initial ground operations, 250,000 military personnel must be released home as soon as possible, in order to release economic-civil pressure, to restore the economy and life to order. We must not just stress ourselves artificially just because we called up 350,000 reservists.
9. Any country in the world that expresses pain over the situation of the refugees in the south is invited to temporarily host refugees (Scotland, Egypt, Turkey, etc.).
10. Avoid collateral damage as much as possible, which could interrupt the Israeli operation before achieving Hamas's surrender.

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Advantages of the program:
- Trickery and surprise: this is exactly the opposite of what Hamas has been preparing for for a decade. Contrary to what he expects us to do. Hamas believes that we have a breathing space of 4-5 weeks inside Gaza and then we will leave, as has always happened in the last decade.

- Dehydrates Hamas operatives. Imagine "Muhammad" a Hamas operative who is currently waiting for us in the tunnel, alert and ready. Under siege, he will be forced to wait for months in his humid tunnel, wet, hungry, depressed, and when the fuel runs out, the tunnel will go dark, and there will be no oxygen: his family may be in the mud in the south of the Gaza Strip or in Egypt or Belgium: what am I doing here?

- transfers the pressure from Israel to Hamas; Passing the lever from Hamas to us. Right now all the leverage is with them. the abductees They will play and play us. This thing turns the bowl and basically the lever goes to us.

- The Hamas leadership will find itself in a dilemma: either Hamas or the state of Gaza. If Sinuar does not disarm he will go down in history as the one who destroyed his country and brought a historical disaster on his people.

- Dramatically reduces the chances of Hezbollah involvement: a. They have no specific trigger to go to war. B. Israeli forces are kept fresh and free to strike in Lebanon.

- A sustainable political line of defense: until the Israelis do not return home, neither will the Gazans return home. Everyone is going home together: Israeli hostages are returning home to Israel, families from the Gaza enclave will return only with the disappearance of Hamas, and the residents of Gaza will also be able to return because the war is over and the danger to their lives has passed.

- The program was tested by DBA experts and meets all the tests of international law.

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That was from google translate so the grammar will be a bit rough
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It’s falling apart. People are desperate now if they’re doing this

UN says 'civil order' collapsing as Gazans loot aid distribution centers
https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/middle-e ... on-centers
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Bi_3 wrote:That was from google translate so the grammar will be a bit rough

He was on radio here last week and he was furious with netenyahu. He sounded like a much more rational man overall wrt Palestine and Hamas. He said Israel will get rid of netenyahu as a priority once this is over but it suits netenyahu to keep it going so as to avoid the shit he’s in for everything else.
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BurtReynolds wrote:The war has escalated
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When the head of the ADL went out of his way to defend the Black Hebrew Israelites last year, it was a little bit of a head scratcher, but now it makes sense. In this and other ways, they very much have generated sunlight between themselves and the SPLC.
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