The Killer

tragabigzanda · Post by **tragabigzanda** » Sun November 12, 2023 4:05 am

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Post by **epilogue** » Sun November 12, 2023 4:09 am

That's funny because if I hear him say Marty is brilliant one more time I might have to stop listening to his dumb, reductionist, borderline misogynist podcast forever.

Amanda has terrible taste, but thank God she's there to reign in Sean's bullshit. Without her the show would be offensive.

Farmer John · Post by **Farmer John** » Sun November 12, 2023 4:26 am

Re: The Killer - I’m going to go with “rather good”

No, not top-tier Fincher, but I liked it. I was into it the whole time. I’m not normally a ‘fight scene guy’, but that fight scene was impressive.

I love that he was a big Smiths fan

tragabigzanda · Post by **tragabigzanda** » Sun November 12, 2023 4:42 am

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

Post by **epilogue** » Sun November 12, 2023 4:44 am

tragabigzanda wrote:
epilogue wrote:That's funny because if I hear him say Marty is brilliant one more time I might have to stop listening to his dumb, reductionist, borderline misogynist podcast forever.

Amanda has terrible taste, but thank God she's there to reign in Sean's bullshit. Without her the show would be offensive.
I will not listen unless Chris Ryan is there. Not a big fan of Amanda either, I much prefer Mallory Rubin.

We're not so different, you and I

Ensign9 · Post by **Ensign9** » Sun November 12, 2023 7:04 am

I’m angry this wasn’t a wide theater release first.

spike · Post by **spike** » Sun November 12, 2023 2:46 pm

epilogue wrote:I'm generalizing for comedic effect. But, yes, I've seen a ton of stuff about how great this movie is. I haven't seen it myself. But I am surprised how lukewarm RM's take on it is given the praise I've seen online and from various film podcasts.

RM isn’t in Netflix’s pocket.

E.H. Ruddock · Post by **E.H. Ruddock** » Sun November 12, 2023 6:31 pm

Is always nice to see Tilda Swinton

Ello Sailor · Post by **Ello Sailor** » Sun November 12, 2023 8:19 pm

spike wrote:
epilogue wrote:I'm generalizing for comedic effect. But, yes, I've seen a ton of stuff about how great this movie is. I haven't seen it myself. But I am surprised how lukewarm RM's take on it is given the praise I've seen online and from various film podcasts.
RM isn’t in Netflix’s pocket.

Also, we didn't say it was "meh". As a collective I think we landed on "pretty good"!

People just love tossing around the word "masterpiece" is all.

(I am also guilty of this)

Ensign9 · Post by **Ensign9** » Sun November 12, 2023 10:54 pm

We’re grading Fincher on his own curve here.

Strat · Post by **Strat** » Sun November 12, 2023 10:55 pm

tragabigzanda wrote:I’ll watch it eventually. I agree it doesn’t feel like an event; just feels like content for which I’ll have above average expectations.

Honestly I’d feel differently if it were on HBO or Apple. The Netflix brand identity at this point is basically “for when you’re looking for something noncommittal to watch while also scrolling your phone.”

haven't watched this yet, plan to, but good timing in that Netflix has basically came out this week and said as much about their programming.

Farmer John · Post by **Farmer John** » Sun November 12, 2023 11:04 pm

If this is what we're getting for disposable content, then we may be spoiled

Farmer John · Post by **Farmer John** » Sun November 12, 2023 11:07 pm

Ello Sailor wrote:People just love tossing around the word "masterpiece" is all.

(I am also guilty of this)

Arrival is, in fact, a masterpiece and don't let anyone tell you otherwise

bart · Post by **bart** » Sun November 12, 2023 11:10 pm

I’m just looking forward to fincher’s next movie, heard it’s gonna be called Hard Boiled

E.H. Ruddock · Post by **E.H. Ruddock** » Mon November 13, 2023 2:15 am

It did bother me that as cold and calculating as he was, he didn’t think to just shoot that dog?

spike · Post by **spike** » Mon November 13, 2023 2:34 am

E.H. Ruddock wrote:It did bother me that as cold and calculating as he was, he didn’t think to just shoot that dog?

Assassin with a heart of gold trope

Farmer John · Post by **Farmer John** » Mon November 13, 2023 2:37 am

He was also considerate enough to make sure that the secretary’s kids got her life insurance by making it look like she broke her neck falling down the stairs, instead of making her disappear. That was nice.

Ensign9 · Post by **Ensign9** » Mon November 13, 2023 8:45 am

E.H. Ruddock wrote:It did bother me that as cold and calculating as he was, he didn’t think to just shoot that dog?

The entire movie after the botched hit is him not being cold and calculating. He breaks all of his own rules and makes mistakes.

tree_ · Post by **tree_** » Mon November 13, 2023 2:03 pm

I liked it quite a bit. I thought it was a movie we've all seen many times, done the way only Fincher could have done it. Like the art of painting still life fruit; everyone knows what an apple is supposed to look like, but how can you paint it the way only you can?

Spoiler: show: I thought he may have intentionally missed the shot and failed the assassination in the beginning, if only subconsciously so he can get out of the miserable lifestyle he's grown so accustomed to and bored of. He was at the top of his game with many years of experience, so he was ready to put it all to the test against his colleagues and burst through to ultimately find his freedom.

Ensign9 · Post by **Ensign9** » Mon November 13, 2023 4:27 pm

I’m starting to think this movie is an intentional comedy.