The Marvels

[B]

47 million debut at the box office, very poor. Not surprising as it seems Marvel wanted to shelve this one a long time ago.

I kinda feel bad for Brie Larson though.

Rogue is going to steal her powers in X-Men and she’ll be free

Now wouldn’t that be an interesting turn of events?

Khaleesi already has them.

[The Argonaut]

The Marvels shows that the future of superhero movies needn't be either darkier/grittier/crueler or parodic/tongue-in-cheek/foolish. There is space for something with emotion, that's fun and goofy but still played straight.

[VinylGuy]

dude, the movie is a huge flop.

[VinylGuy]

If there is a movie that showed that gritty is not the only way is Guardians, any of them.

[The Argonaut]

If there is a movie that showed that gritty is not the only way is Guardians, any of them.

good point.

allow me to amend.

The Marvels shows that the future of mediocre superhero movies needn't be either darkier/grittier/crueler or parodic/tongue-in-cheek/foolish. There is space for something with emotion, that's fun and goofy but still played straight.

[Jorge]

Honestly, I feel bad for the cast. I didn't like this movie but it doesn't deserve to be treated as the straw that broke the MCU's back, especially during the same year that gave us Quantumania!

[BurtReynolds]

I think Thor and Ant-Man turned people against marvel, but The Marvels was unfortunately timed to get the full brunt of the hate.

Or its a "three strikes and you're out" thing.

[VinylGuy]

yeah, i agree with that. I was surprised to see Marvel kinda buring this one and really getting Ant Man 3, Thor and Dr Strange 2 in front.

I fell bad for the three leads, they seem very good. Way better than fucking Benedict Crumbertrash very lazy acting as Strange.

[tommy]

yeah, i agree with that. I was surprised to see Marvel kinda buring this one and really getting Ant Man 3, Thor and Dr Strange 2 in front.

I fell bad for the three leads, they seem very good. Way better than fucking Benedict Crumbertrash very lazy acting as Strange.

Cumberbatch is a weird actor. I'm still not really sure what to make of him.

I really liked him in Power of the Dog, but not much else. Is he good in Imitation Game?

[VinylGuy]

He is pretty awful but he is very lazy and awful as Strange. Particulary in that Spidey movie were he also looks super lazy too. Its like he just entered the studio lot barely put the costume and just said some lines

¨scooby doo this shit¨

Yeez

[VinylGuy]

He is pretty awful but he is very lazy and awful as Strange. Particulary in that Spidey movie were he also looks super lazy too. Its like he just entered the studio lot barely put the costume and just said some lines

¨scooby doo this shit¨

Yeez

[The Argonaut]

he didn't write the thing

[tommy]

he didn't write the thing

Would Harrison Ford say a line like that?

[BurtReynolds]

It's notable that women in particular didn't show up. I think the model going forward for appealing to women will be Barbie and not lady superheroes. Or Disney will quadruple down on doing stupid shit.

Stop trying to capture every quadrant with one property!

[B]

Does this have anything to do with it having women leads? Isn't the story that this wasn't enough to pull fans out of their Phase 4 funk.

Your blaming The Marvels for a problem that was started by Ant-Man 3, Thor 4, and Secret Invasion. I mean, shit, even I almost gave up on Marvel after Secret Invasion.

[BurtReynolds]

This is a movie targeted primarily towards women, no?

[Mecca]

This is a movie targeted primarily towards women, no?

No.

[BurtReynolds]

Who were they targeting?

[The Argonaut]

Everyone. The TV series are targeted at specific segments. Every person on Earth is supposed to go see the movies

[BurtReynolds]

Interesting point at the end of this video comparing it to Wonder Woman (around 8:30).