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Okay, I'm ready to say I like future days.
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southp wrote:
harmless wrote:
southp wrote:
harmless wrote:On the other hand, there are people who never heard the leak who still think LTRP is junk and FD is close to being junk.

Anyone who doesn't like FD either has a heart of stone or enjoys torturing helpless kittens. ;)
Nope. BoB's keyboard "bookends" sound like helpless kittens being tortured, and it's precisely because I don't want to listen to that that the song is... eh.
To each their own. Now, I'm not looking at you specifically, but I do believe that this type of anti-BOB group-think is bringing down some people's enjoyment of a great song. I find the piano and keyboard layers on FD to be fantastic, and they add a lot to a song that could be boring on acoustic only. Same can be said for the backing vocals on FD, and the full band rendition of SBM. We're nowhere near Phil Spector levels here.
Great post! I dont quite get the Brendan Hate that happened before BS. Most of the RM crowd was begging for him to come back to help them with arrangements..Thats what he has been doing here.
You could like it or not, but its not like he has been doing whatever he wants here. My only complaint is the fade outs...still dont like those ( although the transition from LB to Infallible works here).
Other thing i like: the guitars...specially Stone...he does some great things here.
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stip wrote:Okay, I'm ready to say I like future days.
:ohyeah!:
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Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
stip wrote:Okay, I'm ready to say I like future days.
:ohyeah!:
oh, and are you gonna say it anywhere other then in here? :lol:
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i rarely know what thread I'm in, anymore
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stip wrote:i rarely know what thread I'm in, anymore
You're in the Hot Girls thread, Stip. Put your pants back on. Your colleagues are disgusted.
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stip wrote:i rarely know what thread I'm in, anymore
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theplatypus wrote:
stip wrote:i rarely know what thread I'm in, anymore
You're in the Hot Girls thread, Stip. Put your pants back on. Your colleagues are disgustedly turned on.
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harmless wrote:
broken iris wrote:
stip wrote:my question was to Broken Iris.

Nice review :)

It was just a lot of new material at once since I had never heard Infallible, Swallowed Whole, LTRP, or Yellow Moon before last night. It gave the show a slightly different vibe since it's the first time I have seen them where I didn't already know all the songs. I guess I felt more like what a casual fan must feel like at the show; a little lost.
So have you heard it yet? Did you post your thoughts somewhere yet?

I don't really have much to add at this point and there have been a lot of good reviews here already. Though I am glad I joined the NLC. The new stuff is easier to digest all at once in album format than live show.
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southp wrote:I find the piano and keyboard layers on FD to be fantastic, and they add a lot to a song that could be boring on acoustic only. Same can be said for the backing vocals on FD, and the full band rendition of SBM. We're nowhere near Phil Spector levels here.
Yea, I'm pretty much in agreement with this statement. If people really want to hear some cheesy piano I'm sure there are a million other songs I could find that would make your ears bleed. And my point earlier was that the slight pump organ drone that lies just underneath BoB's piano part makes the whole thing pretty lovely I think.

As far as a divergence in opinions, yea I'd say I noticed that already but over time I'd expect all things to regress toward the mean. Meaning that some of the skeptics will find some enjoyment from LB and some of us with our heads in the cloud may fall back to earth a little. Or we could all just agree to disagree? :D
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stip wrote:Okay, I'm ready to say I like future days.
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durdencommatyler wrote:
stip wrote:Okay, I'm ready to say I like future days.
:luv:
hey d,t, have you given any reviews for the album? and if so, where can we find em?
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PJ always seems to release the right album at the right time for me. That is part of my problem maybe.

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For that, though, i give thanks.
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Lament wrote:
DFParker78 wrote:I wish Pearl Jam would record more ballads and pop songs. "Lightning Bolt" has only two good songs, "Sirens" and "Future Days". They haven't released a good album since "Ten" and today's release is horrendous. Most songs are mediocre to bland. Ed's lyrics are lame, and "Infallible" is a rip off of Christina Aguilera's "Beautiful" melody-wise.

"Future Days" may be their best work EVER! :thumbsup:
On a board with MindYourTanners, IlluminEddie, flannelking, and the fake Kat, you've got to bring something better to the table than this.

1/10.
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Strat wrote:PJ always seems to release the right album at the right time for me. That is part of my problem maybe.

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For that, though, i give thanks.
Yeap, the same for me.
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Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
stip wrote:Okay, I'm ready to say I like future days.
:luv:
hey d,t, have you given any reviews for the album? and if so, where can we find em?
I haven't yet. I'm waiting because I'm crazy busy at work (we just started previews for our first show of the season and it's looking like a hit!) and I want to give the album a few more listens before I review it. I'm just enjoying it so much a visceral level right now. Not feeling the need or desire to turn any of that energy toward the cerebral. The short review is that I'm pretty impressed. This is the first Pearl Jam album that I can think of where I don't dislike a single a song. Which is not to say I think LB is anywhere near their best album. Just that usually there's at least one song that turns me off from the word 'go' and that isn't happening here.
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durdencommatyler wrote:...usually there's at least one song that turns me off from the word 'go' and that isn't happening here.
ditto

I'm not sure if that has ever happened for me, maybe Ten
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DFParker78 wrote:flannelking has excellent taste in music! I fucking LOVE Pelican and Russian Circles.
DFParker78 wrote:I wish Pearl Jam would record more ballads and pop songs. "Lightning Bolt" has only two good songs, "Sirens" and "Future Days". They haven't released a good album since "Ten"...
Not sure I'm ready to trust your opinion on music :shake:
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Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
stip wrote:
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
stip wrote:now post your gif review!
It was tough, it's hard to express an entire song in one single GIF, but here it is:

A Crackpot GIF Review.

Getaway, MYM, MFS:
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Sbm was great
was Infallible because you arent happy with it?
I'm very happy with it now, but I was disappointed with it at first because it wasn't what I thought it would be. But then the groove got to me, as you'll see by Will's movements further into the gif. :D
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i was part of the no leak club this time around. i'd heard mind your manners from the initial release, and lightning bolt/future days at wrigley, and also had heard most of sirens because i couldn't seem to avoid it (with that espn/gleason thing being the main culprit).

i still have yet to receive the album- hell, i just got my vault vinyl today, so i probably won't have a physical copy for a couple more weeks yet- but used the 10c download to listen to at work yesterday and then last night fed the audio line from the computer to my cassette deck to make a tape copy for my car, omitting sirens and adding let it ride and cold concession at the end because you're goddamn right i did.

anyway, initial thoughts:

-for better or worse lightning bolt seems to be their most commercially accessible record yet. it's all over the place with seemingly something for everyone. unlike backspacer, though, i do feel they somewhat challenged themselves on this one. however, they also sound influenced by (or ripped off, if you prefer) more bands than on any of their other records.
-sirens and future days are atrocious and will no doubt be my piss break/beer run songs going forward.
-i'm not really a lyrics person, so perhaps my opinions aren't the most informed, but there's a lot of cringeworthy stuff throughout the album. ed seems to be choosing the more direct path these days.
-there's a lot of embellishments on this album that just seem out of place on a pearl jam record (~2:40 on lightning bolt, for example, with whatever that woo-ee-wee-oo thing is supposed to be). they were on backspacer, too, so it's not new, but it still sounds lame.
-as with a lot of pearl jam records, this one is front loaded. the opening trio is pretty decent, and then sirens drops a diarrhetic turd on everything.
-jeff ament is the mvp of the album.
-lightning bolt is better as a whole than backspacer, but after several spins i don't see myself putting it above any other record in the near future. lightning bolt has a better chance at being a grower, though, than backspacer ever did.
-top 3 in no order would probably be my father's son, lightning bolt, and pendulum (loooooove the moody stuff. pendulum would fit on binaural/riot act just fine). let the records play and mind your manners might find their way up there.
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