12th album rumors and speculation

General Pearl Jam discussion.
Locked

What sound will be prominent on this album?

Heavy
18
29%
Spritzy punk
3
5%
Dad rock
27
43%
Return to form
15
24%
 
Total votes: 63

User avatar
RockPusher
Future Drummer
Posts: 2090
Joined: Mon March 30, 2020 11:59 pm
Location: This godforsaken town

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Post by RockPusher »

dprival78 wrote:what if the metal door youtube clip was actual promo material put out by band management?
Folks at pearljam.com have proposed that and there's a thread about it. I think it's certainly possible, as Santos appeared to hint at it and promote it, and it seems somewhat curated.

I mean, it's certainly got me frothing at the mouth, but wouldn't I be doing that no matter how they promoted it? I dunno.
Be mighty...Be humble...Be mighty humble...
tommy
Rank This Poster
Posts: 4456
Joined: Sat August 05, 2023 11:13 pm

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Post by tommy »

RockPusher wrote:
dprival78 wrote:what if the metal door youtube clip was actual promo material put out by band management?
Folks at pearljam.com have proposed that and there's a thread about it. I think it's certainly possible, as Santos appeared to hint at it and promote it, and it seems somewhat curated.

I mean, it's certainly got me frothing at the mouth, but wouldn't I be doing that no matter how they promoted it? I dunno.
Get well soon
User avatar
RockPusher
Future Drummer
Posts: 2090
Joined: Mon March 30, 2020 11:59 pm
Location: This godforsaken town

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Post by RockPusher »

tommy wrote:
RockPusher wrote:
dprival78 wrote:what if the metal door youtube clip was actual promo material put out by band management?
Folks at pearljam.com have proposed that and there's a thread about it. I think it's certainly possible, as Santos appeared to hint at it and promote it, and it seems somewhat curated.

I mean, it's certainly got me frothing at the mouth, but wouldn't I be doing that no matter how they promoted it? I dunno.
Get well soon
But... I don't want to?! I have a fever! I need more cowbell!
Be mighty...Be humble...Be mighty humble...
User avatar
Rob
Future Drummer
Posts: 2889
Joined: Fri January 04, 2013 1:46 am
Location: Connecticut

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Post by Rob »

McParadigm wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Based on my memory of what I heard, I think the music sounds like it could be awesome at times…
I have to admit, from what I heard, my immediate response was that it sounded pretty awful - like various iterations of, I don't know, Quick Escape and Sirens. The weakest parts of the last two records, amplified and glossed up.

I know how ridiculous it is to make any judgements based on snippets of music distantly recorded through a door, however, so I'm happy to eat my hat if this thing rules.

It becomes clear at album release time that these guys probably benefited from having an overbearing record company managing the rollout and hype machine. They always seem to muddle through it uncomfortably, not really knowing how it should be done.
I haven’t listened to the door video, but I agree that Quick Escape and Sirens are the weakest parts of their respective records (other than that the end of Quick Escape is a fantastic capturing of the band playing their hearts out). I sure hope this record doesn’t sound like iterations of those two songs.
I think Sirens may be the weakest part of their whole existence, but I really like QE. I’m more interested in variety anyway, but a couple in the QE direction with lyrics that are actually good would be cool.
User avatar
WaitingForBluey
Future Drummer
Posts: 2647
Joined: Thu March 21, 2013 1:08 am
Twitter: https://twitter.com/homeforbed
Location: Pennsyltucky
Contact:

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Post by WaitingForBluey »

1) If it were a loiterer, security would have asked them to leave, correct?
2) If it were a fan willing to camp out behind the door, no doubt they would've been prepared to record the whole thing and that would've surfaced by now.
3) Is it sad that PJ feels the need to stage something that would have happened naturally back in the day?

And now, I'll never get back the 5 minutes of my Saturday that I just wasted.
User avatar
Jorge
NYUCK NYUCK NYUCK
Posts: 36767
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 3:35 pm
Location: Buenos Aires

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Post by Jorge »

I am sure it isn't staged. Artists are nuts about the specific way they want their work to be heard, especially for the first time, and "muffled by a metal door" isn't it
Anders wrote:I do not have a «neoliberal assessment of geopolitics», so please stop writing that I do.
User avatar
Bammer
mXn
Posts: 22817
Joined: Thu January 24, 2013 4:32 am
Location: Surrounded by Wokes. Please send help.

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Post by Bammer »

Jorge wrote:I am sure it isn't staged. Artists are nuts about the specific way they want their work to be heard, especially for the first time, and "muffled by a metal door" isn't it
Through the speaker on my iPhone that won’t connect to my car stereo via bluetooth anymore is definitely better!
(she/him/theirs)
User avatar
Jorge
NYUCK NYUCK NYUCK
Posts: 36767
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 3:35 pm
Location: Buenos Aires

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Post by Jorge »

Bammer wrote:
Jorge wrote:I am sure it isn't staged. Artists are nuts about the specific way they want their work to be heard, especially for the first time, and "muffled by a metal door" isn't it
Through the speaker on my iPhone that won’t connect to my car stereo via bluetooth anymore is definitely better!
I am sure it will be mixed for that exact circumstance
Anders wrote:I do not have a «neoliberal assessment of geopolitics», so please stop writing that I do.
User avatar
DDWJMUVW
likes rhythmic things that butt up against each other
Posts: 703
Joined: Wed December 13, 2023 9:44 pm

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Post by DDWJMUVW »

Jorge wrote:I am sure it isn't staged. Artists are nuts about the specific way they want their work to be heard, especially for the first time, and "muffled by a metal door" isn't it
Then they failed miserably, as "YouTube fella" gave a 30 minute, in-depth review right outside the place immediately following, and in front of 10c guy Bierman himself.

And then over 3 minutes of the new music leaked out.

More leaks than the Iraqi Navy.
"For me, it's all about the time we're having just playing the songs. So if it's kind of a mindless good time, then....."
User avatar
lecherouslittlestump
known prankster
Posts: 1117
Joined: Mon July 08, 2013 10:39 am

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Post by lecherouslittlestump »

More leaks than my ass after relentless pounding
"A man who doesn't spend time with the Jamily can never be a real man," - Don Corelone
Ms Harmless
She / Her
Posts: 13644
Joined: Sun January 26, 2020 12:10 pm
Twitter: https://twitter.com/
Location: Warwickshire, UK

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Post by Ms Harmless »

I can't believe this
User avatar
Jaeti
Future Drummer
Posts: 2642
Joined: Mon July 08, 2013 5:47 pm

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Post by Jaeti »

I don’t believe it was staged, but I remain puzzled that someone was allowed to linger there like that with presumably obvious intentions.
User avatar
E.H. Ruddock
Guys, I am not a moderator! I swear to God! Why does everyone think I'm a moderator?
Posts: 52026
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:48 pm

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Post by E.H. Ruddock »

Guys, calm down. I’m the YouTube guy that recorded it. I told you i was there. This was a seldom used door that the Pearl Jam security crew wasn’t aware of. I I’m pretty sure it was one of those doors that trip the fire alarm if you open it.
Clouuuuds Rolll byyy...BANG BANG BANG BANG
User avatar
DDWJMUVW
likes rhythmic things that butt up against each other
Posts: 703
Joined: Wed December 13, 2023 9:44 pm

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Post by DDWJMUVW »

E.H. Ruddock wrote:Guys, calm down. I’m the YouTube guy that recorded it. I told you i was there. This was a seldom used door that the Pearl Jam security crew wasn’t aware of. I I’m pretty sure it was one of those doors that trip the fire alarm if you open it.
And you didn’t know what spritzy meant?

Sheesh.
"For me, it's all about the time we're having just playing the songs. So if it's kind of a mindless good time, then....."
User avatar
Sgt. Crackpot
F.U.B.A.R
Posts: 9104
Joined: Wed July 03, 2013 11:21 pm
Twitter: RobertDowneyJr
Location: Lft Craquepeau
Contact:

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Post by Sgt. Crackpot »

Why only parts of songs too? Why not record the whole thing and upload it?

Ruddo, were you stopping repeatedly to edge?
Rangi Guy wrote:So skating back to the train station after work today things went wrong.....now my skateboard is at the bottom of the harbour :(
Ms Harmless
She / Her
Posts: 13644
Joined: Sun January 26, 2020 12:10 pm
Twitter: https://twitter.com/
Location: Warwickshire, UK

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Post by Ms Harmless »

I hate this
User avatar
E.H. Ruddock
Guys, I am not a moderator! I swear to God! Why does everyone think I'm a moderator?
Posts: 52026
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:48 pm

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Post by E.H. Ruddock »

Sgt. Crackpot wrote:Why only parts of songs too? Why not record the whole thing and upload it?

Ruddo, were you stopping repeatedly to edge?
Yeah i came a bunch. All that relentless pounding
Clouuuuds Rolll byyy...BANG BANG BANG BANG
User avatar
Hatfield
AnalLog
Posts: 1517
Joined: Fri January 04, 2013 8:54 pm

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Post by Hatfield »

McParadigm wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Based on my memory of what I heard, I think the music sounds like it could be awesome at times…
I have to admit, from what I heard, my immediate response was that it sounded pretty awful - like various iterations of, I don't know, Quick Escape and Sirens. The weakest parts of the last two records, amplified and glossed up.

I know how ridiculous it is to make any judgements based on snippets of music distantly recorded through a door, however, so I'm happy to eat my hat if this thing rules.

It becomes clear at album release time that these guys probably benefited from having an overbearing record company managing the rollout and hype machine. They always seem to muddle through it uncomfortably, not really knowing how it should be done.
I haven’t listened to the door video, but I agree that Quick Escape and Sirens are the weakest parts of their respective records (other than that the end of Quick Escape is a fantastic capturing of the band playing their hearts out). I sure hope this record doesn’t sound like iterations of those two songs.
One thing you can rest easy on is knowing that Watt didn't neuter Matt's drums the way he did Chad Smith's.
User avatar
Sgt. Crackpot
F.U.B.A.R
Posts: 9104
Joined: Wed July 03, 2013 11:21 pm
Twitter: RobertDowneyJr
Location: Lft Craquepeau
Contact:

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Post by Sgt. Crackpot »

Ms Harmless wrote:I hate this
A band of dudes pushing 60 have either lost their marbles on how to market this album, or it's pure genius. I'm intrigued
Rangi Guy wrote:So skating back to the train station after work today things went wrong.....now my skateboard is at the bottom of the harbour :(
Ms Harmless
She / Her
Posts: 13644
Joined: Sun January 26, 2020 12:10 pm
Twitter: https://twitter.com/
Location: Warwickshire, UK

Re: 12th album rumors and speculation

Post by Ms Harmless »

Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I hate this
A band of dudes pushing 60 have either lost their marbles on how to market this album, or it's pure genius. I'm intrigued
it's horrible and hilarious
Locked