12th album rumors and speculation

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What sound will be prominent on this album?

Heavy
18
29%
Spritzy punk
3
5%
Dad rock
27
43%
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24%
 
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Ms Harmless wrote:I'll be honest, even though DM is obviously "heavy" and Soundgardeny, it's also very catchy; I wonder if they'll have stuff on the album with more emotional weight and depth, sort of a "Fell On Black Days"
I hope so... I'd love a "Zero Chance" type Pearl Jam song.
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Walker Bait wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I'll be honest, even though DM is obviously "heavy" and Soundgardeny, it's also very catchy; I wonder if they'll have stuff on the album with more emotional weight and depth, sort of a "Fell On Black Days"
I hope so... I'd love a "Zero Chance" type Pearl Jam song.
for me that would be the difference between a cool classic rock PJ album and a true "spirit of grunge" PJ album
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but if it's good I'll take either
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I think my “fear” about tonight’s release is that it’s too akin to Mind Your Manners. If it is, that doesn’t automatically mean I’ll dislike it. But I’d prefer not to be put in that position.
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catchy and emotional weight/depth are hardly mutually exclusive as well
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Jaeti wrote:I think my “fear” about tonight’s release is that it’s too akin to Mind Your Manners. If it is, that doesn’t automatically mean I’ll dislike it. But I’d prefer not to be put in that position.
I'm not getting any of that. I'm thinking it will be heavy like Footsteps Garden or Just a Girt. Of course faster tempo but I think it will have that weight and darkness to it.
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stip wrote:catchy and emotional weight/depth are hardly mutually exclusive as well
Shit man, that combo was always the calling card of this band.
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stip wrote:catchy and emotional weight/depth are hardly mutually exclusive as well
definitely not, I'm looking to see what this song is about lyrically; if it's about another hot middle aged stunner and he was stunned, I won't be too happy
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Ms Harmless wrote:
stip wrote:catchy and emotional weight/depth are hardly mutually exclusive as well
definitely not, I'm looking to see what this song is about lyrically; if it's about another hot middle aged stunner and he was stunned, I won't be too happy
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RockPusher wrote:
stip wrote:catchy and emotional weight/depth are hardly mutually exclusive as well
Shit man, that combo was always the calling card of this band.
there's very little you can call super catchy in their middle period, but sure, they were never an avant garde noise rock band
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Jaeti wrote:I think my “fear” about tonight’s release is that it’s too akin to Mind Your Manners. If it is, that doesn’t automatically mean I’ll dislike it. But I’d prefer not to be put in that position.
Thankfully I'm not getting ANY MYM vibes. Not that it's a bad song, it's just not my fave type of PJ. I'm getting more of a "Just a Girl" type vibe... and no, not the No Doubt one.
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Walker Bait wrote:
Jaeti wrote:I think my “fear” about tonight’s release is that it’s too akin to Mind Your Manners. If it is, that doesn’t automatically mean I’ll dislike it. But I’d prefer not to be put in that position.
Thankfully I'm not getting ANY MYM vibes. Not that it's a bad song, it's just not my fave type of PJ. I'm getting more of a "Just a Girl" type vibe... and no, not the No Doubt one.
I’ll say it. MYM is bad, and embarrassing live.

That album is just massively disappointing. When I saw Sleeping by Myself on the track list I knew. An EV re tread?
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I don't think MYM is bad at all; in terms of songwriting it's a fairly successful attempt at what Ed's been trying and failing for ages, a Ramones song; the worst thing about it is that the production went dollar store Blink 182 instead of Ramones

I genuinely enjoy the "go to heaven! that's swell! how do you like your living hell?" section, I always enjoy shots at homophobic fundies and Ed's pretty good at them
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I like MYM more than Comatose, probably (but I like the "if it's illegal to be in love" part)
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I fucking love Mind Your Manners. It's a favorite. I agree that it's maybe the best version of a song Ed had been trying to write for a while (though SBWM may top it - they are reaching for something similar even if they're tonally different)


Here's a question. What is the last perfect Eddie vocal performance for you - one that captures 100% of what you want from him, no caveats. There are a few moments on Earthlings that come close.

Mine is probably Hard Sun.
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Ms Harmless wrote:I like MYM more than Comatose, probably (but I like the "if it's illegal to be in love" part)
they are both 5 star songs for me (as is SBWM)
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Granting they're not dissimilar songs, if tonight's release is more "Comatose" than "MYM," then I will be quite happy, I think.
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stip wrote:I fucking love Mind Your Manners. It's a favorite. I agree that it's maybe the best version of a song Ed had been trying to write for a while (though SBWM may top it - they are reaching for something similar even if they're tonally different)


Here's a question. What is the last perfect Eddie vocal performance for you - one that captures 100% of what you want from him, no caveats. There are a few moments on Earthlings that come close.

Mine is probably Hard Sun.
I think Brother the Cloud gets there for me.
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Ms Harmless wrote:I don't think MYM is bad at all; in terms of songwriting it's a fairly successful attempt at what Ed's been trying and failing for ages, a Ramones song
It sounds nothing like the Ramones... it is a punk rock facsimile but far, far from the Ramones. I hear shades of Bad Religion, Hüsker Dü, or even Mötorhead
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It’s a Motörhead ripoff
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