12th album rumors and speculation

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What sound will be prominent on this album?

Heavy
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29%
Spritzy punk
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5%
Dad rock
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43%
Return to form
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24%
 
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Ms Harmless wrote:I like MYM more than Comatose, probably (but I like the "if it's illegal to be in love" part)
oh harmless. you and i. we had something. but now i don't know who you are anymore. these two songs are on different planets in my musical solar system (comatose is far and away superior).
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Jaeti wrote:
stip wrote:I fucking love Mind Your Manners. It's a favorite. I agree that it's maybe the best version of a song Ed had been trying to write for a while (though SBWM may top it - they are reaching for something similar even if they're tonally different)


Here's a question. What is the last perfect Eddie vocal performance for you - one that captures 100% of what you want from him, no caveats. There are a few moments on Earthlings that come close.

Mine is probably Hard Sun.
I think Brother the Cloud gets there for me.
Though Dance Just Came on - that's awfully close to. I have loved plenty of Eddie performances since Hard Sun - but that's one that is exactly what I go to him specifically for.

In the Dark and Invincible are both up for me as well.
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I like the weird dueling guitar lines in "Comatose"
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Comatose tries to fit on Vitalogy but it’s in such a hurry it runs ahead of the train Vitalogy is riding on and then dies on the tracks out of breath
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stip wrote:
Jaeti wrote:
stip wrote:I fucking love Mind Your Manners. It's a favorite. I agree that it's maybe the best version of a song Ed had been trying to write for a while (though SBWM may top it - they are reaching for something similar even if they're tonally different)


Here's a question. What is the last perfect Eddie vocal performance for you - one that captures 100% of what you want from him, no caveats. There are a few moments on Earthlings that come close.

Mine is probably Hard Sun.
I think Brother the Cloud gets there for me.
Though Dance Just Came on - that's awfully close to. I have loved plenty of Eddie performances since Hard Sun - but that's one that is exactly what I go to him specifically for.

In the Dark and Invincible are both up for me as well.
I think, collectively, the first six songs on Earthling manage to capture everything that makes Eddie's voice my favorite musical instrument ever.
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MYM got to be pretty decent live, but the album version is not good. Their first singles have been very hit or miss in the PRAMG era.
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MYM was a stinking turd. The opening riff with syncopated drums was the only listenable part.
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"combing through the wreckage" is referring to RMer's trying to get actual info in this thread
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stip wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I like MYM more than Comatose, probably (but I like the "if it's illegal to be in love" part)
they are both 5 star songs for me (as is SBWM)
I do think SBWM is better than them both, because as with any Really Good PJ, any very slight niggles I have with it are improved by great instrumentation and production
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Jorge wrote:I like the weird dueling guitar lines in "Comatose"
same, they're definitely my favourite part
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Enjoy these moments, friends. Tomorrow RM very well may be heavily divided and all chaos. Friendships will sour, no doubt.
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I already hate everybody.
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You guys are arguing about some of the worst Pearl Jam songs
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stip wrote:
Jaeti wrote:
stip wrote:I fucking love Mind Your Manners. It's a favorite. I agree that it's maybe the best version of a song Ed had been trying to write for a while (though SBWM may top it - they are reaching for something similar even if they're tonally different)


Here's a question. What is the last perfect Eddie vocal performance for you - one that captures 100% of what you want from him, no caveats. There are a few moments on Earthlings that come close.

Mine is probably Hard Sun.
I think Brother the Cloud gets there for me.
Though Dance Just Came on - that's awfully close to. I have loved plenty of Eddie performances since Hard Sun - but that's one that is exactly what I go to him specifically for.

In the Dark and Invincible are both up for me as well.
I love Invincible, and I think In The Dark is such a joy; so much of Earthling showcases a passionate Ed, something I didn't realise I'd missed so much at the time; it wasn't the same type of passion as the early days, the snarling rage was all but gone, but you can tell it's authentic when Ed is actually feeling something and isn't just pooing out a product, no matter what the emotion is; I have a couple of minor issues with the lyrical content of The Haves, but I feel like the tone achieved is truly sweet and romantic
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tragabigzanda wrote:You guys are arguing about some of the worst Pearl Jam songs
are there any best Pearl Jam songs anymore? we're just being current
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Strat wrote:Enjoy these moments, friends. Tomorrow RM very well may be heavily divided and all chaos. Friendships will sour, no doubt.
at least trag and i will always have wilco.
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I’m only listening to the drums only version of the single tonight.
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Chris_H_2 wrote:
Strat wrote:Enjoy these moments, friends. Tomorrow RM very well may be heavily divided and all chaos. Friendships will sour, no doubt.
at least trag and i will always have wilco.
It brings me no pleasure to miss Wilco as much as I do
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stip wrote:I fucking love Mind Your Manners. It's a favorite. I agree that it's maybe the best version of a song Ed had been trying to write for a while (though SBWM may top it - they are reaching for something similar even if they're tonally different)


Here's a question. What is the last perfect Eddie vocal performance for you - one that captures 100% of what you want from him, no caveats. There are a few moments on Earthlings that come close.

Mine is probably Hard Sun.
I've been thinking about this for a bit but can't make up my mind. It has been going to Force of Nature but then I'm not convinced about the 100% and "no caveats" part. For absolutely no caveats I might need to go back to Vitalogy. Pretty much everything following has some sort of vocal thing that dampens my enjoyment. A bit too nasal, then a bit too subdued, then a bit too struggling. Taking into account his age and defining perfect as "perfect for what he can do right now" it has to be something from the Avocado/Into The Wild/Backspacker era.

I'll stay with Force Of Nature but with 90% and some caveats.
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Strat wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
Strat wrote:Enjoy these moments, friends. Tomorrow RM very well may be heavily divided and all chaos. Friendships will sour, no doubt.
at least trag and i will always have wilco.
It brings me no pleasure to miss Wilco as much as I do
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