12th album rumors and speculation

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What sound will be prominent on this album?

Heavy
18
29%
Spritzy punk
3
5%
Dad rock
27
43%
Return to form
15
24%
 
Total votes: 63

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Mike wrote:
stip wrote:I fucking love Mind Your Manners. It's a favorite. I agree that it's maybe the best version of a song Ed had been trying to write for a while (though SBWM may top it - they are reaching for something similar even if they're tonally different)


Here's a question. What is the last perfect Eddie vocal performance for you - one that captures 100% of what you want from him, no caveats. There are a few moments on Earthlings that come close.

Mine is probably Hard Sun.
I've been thinking about this for a bit but can't make up my mind. It has been going to Force of Nature but then I'm not convinced about the 100% and "no caveats" part. For absolutely no caveats I might need to go back to Vitalogy. Pretty much everything following has some sort of vocal thing that dampens my enjoyment. A bit too nasal, then a bit too subdued, then a bit too struggling. Taking into account his age and defining perfect as "perfect for what he can do right now" it has to be something from the Avocado/Into The Wild/Backspacker era.

I'll stay with Force Of Nature but with 90% and some caveats.
I love Ed's nasal thing, wish he still did it
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ARE YOU OSCAR KILO? WILL YOU WILCO?
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Ms Harmless wrote:
Mike wrote:
stip wrote:I fucking love Mind Your Manners. It's a favorite. I agree that it's maybe the best version of a song Ed had been trying to write for a while (though SBWM may top it - they are reaching for something similar even if they're tonally different)


Here's a question. What is the last perfect Eddie vocal performance for you - one that captures 100% of what you want from him, no caveats. There are a few moments on Earthlings that come close.

Mine is probably Hard Sun.
I've been thinking about this for a bit but can't make up my mind. It has been going to Force of Nature but then I'm not convinced about the 100% and "no caveats" part. For absolutely no caveats I might need to go back to Vitalogy. Pretty much everything following has some sort of vocal thing that dampens my enjoyment. A bit too nasal, then a bit too subdued, then a bit too struggling. Taking into account his age and defining perfect as "perfect for what he can do right now" it has to be something from the Avocado/Into The Wild/Backspacker era.

I'll stay with Force Of Nature but with 90% and some caveats.
I love Ed's nasal thing, wish he still did it
I love pretty much all of Ed's singing up to Riot Act. There's always something that makes it less than perfect, though.
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Mike wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Mike wrote:
stip wrote:I fucking love Mind Your Manners. It's a favorite. I agree that it's maybe the best version of a song Ed had been trying to write for a while (though SBWM may top it - they are reaching for something similar even if they're tonally different)


Here's a question. What is the last perfect Eddie vocal performance for you - one that captures 100% of what you want from him, no caveats. There are a few moments on Earthlings that come close.

Mine is probably Hard Sun.
I've been thinking about this for a bit but can't make up my mind. It has been going to Force of Nature but then I'm not convinced about the 100% and "no caveats" part. For absolutely no caveats I might need to go back to Vitalogy. Pretty much everything following has some sort of vocal thing that dampens my enjoyment. A bit too nasal, then a bit too subdued, then a bit too struggling. Taking into account his age and defining perfect as "perfect for what he can do right now" it has to be something from the Avocado/Into The Wild/Backspacker era.

I'll stay with Force Of Nature but with 90% and some caveats.
I love Ed's nasal thing, wish he still did it
I love pretty much all of Ed's singing up to Riot Act. There's always something that makes it less than perfect, though.
that's fair, me too
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tragabigzanda wrote:You guys are arguing about some of the worst Pearl Jam songs
We did a google ads banner last year, and funnily enough the tag line was "The home for arguing over the worst Pearl Jam songs (and it's not The Pit)".
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YEAH SO FEEL IMPORTANT
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Jorge wrote:I like the weird dueling guitar lines in "Comatose"
Me too.

I also like the big crashing chords in the intro and chorus too.

It's maybe the only example of late-period Pearl Jam doing one of those 'high octane rockers' that actually works.

MYM is awful.
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Strat wrote:Enjoy these moments, friends. Tomorrow RM very well may be heavily divided and all chaos. Friendships will sour, no doubt.
Even if the song sucks...I'm going to thoroughly enjoy reading the reactions on this board tonight
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bodysnatcher wrote:
Strat wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
Strat wrote:Enjoy these moments, friends. Tomorrow RM very well may be heavily divided and all chaos. Friendships will sour, no doubt.
at least trag and i will always have wilco.
It brings me no pleasure to miss Wilco as much as I do
If we all stop posting and listen, you can hear Jeff Tweedy whisper singing a new Wilco song
Oh man... hurts my soul to laugh at this :haha:
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I think DM is turning out to be a good song.
Just a few more hours before we all find out!
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Ms Harmless wrote:
Mike wrote:
stip wrote:I fucking love Mind Your Manners. It's a favorite. I agree that it's maybe the best version of a song Ed had been trying to write for a while (though SBWM may top it - they are reaching for something similar even if they're tonally different)


Here's a question. What is the last perfect Eddie vocal performance for you - one that captures 100% of what you want from him, no caveats. There are a few moments on Earthlings that come close.

Mine is probably Hard Sun.
I've been thinking about this for a bit but can't make up my mind. It has been going to Force of Nature but then I'm not convinced about the 100% and "no caveats" part. For absolutely no caveats I might need to go back to Vitalogy. Pretty much everything following has some sort of vocal thing that dampens my enjoyment. A bit too nasal, then a bit too subdued, then a bit too struggling. Taking into account his age and defining perfect as "perfect for what he can do right now" it has to be something from the Avocado/Into The Wild/Backspacker era.

I'll stay with Force Of Nature but with 90% and some caveats.
I love Ed's nasal thing, wish he still did it
I struggled with it. It's still Ed so I'll still take it, but the nasal period is my least favorite vocal era
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stip wrote: I struggled with it. It's still Ed so I'll still take it, but the nasal period is my least favorite vocal era
Was it an artistic choice or just sinusitis
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I've lost track at this point, when is the single expected to be available?
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Birds in Hell wrote:I've lost track at this point, when is the single expected to be available?
about 8 hours
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Val wrote:
stip wrote: I struggled with it. It's still Ed so I'll still take it, but the nasal period is my least favorite vocal era
Was it an artistic choice or just sinusitis

A true artist owns their sinusitis
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good luck everyone

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Birds in Hell wrote:
Jorge wrote:I like the weird dueling guitar lines in "Comatose"
Me too.

I also like the big crashing chords in the intro and chorus too.

It's maybe the only example of late-period Pearl Jam doing one of those 'high octane rockers' that actually works.

MYM is awful.
I like big crashing chords, I just don't really like... those chords; they're mostly major so they scream AC/DC instead of Vitalogy; I enjoy every other rocker on S/T more
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MYM is fine, although the compressed production does it no favours.

As for EV's nasally thing, that's probably my favourite vocal affectation of his.
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yeah me too, the nasal-ness of No Code is glorious, "Smile" for example
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Ms Harmless wrote:yeah me too, the nasal-ness of No Code is glorious, "Smile" for example
:thumbsup:

ms. harmless, we rarely see eye to eye but I've been digging your takes in this thread. So... there's hope?
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