Song of the Moment: Infallible

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At the risk of throwing myself to the wolves, I'm not sure I get the infatuation with Tremor Christ, and I would call Infallible the better song, and certainly the more interesting song. Infallible is endlessly listenable to me. Tremor Christ might have a bigger catharsis, but Infallible is better on the whole.

As a side note, it's also a song that seems to give Matt some room to breathe, and one of his better performances with this band imo.
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Matt certainly does catch his breath to breathe in this song, which is one of the things I really enjoy about it. But are we saying the drumming here is better than Tremor Christ's as well? I hope not...
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I'm not sure I get the infatuation with Tremor Christ
It's okay.

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griffinxi wrote:At the risk of throwing myself to the wolves, I'm not sure I get the infatuation with Tremor Christ, and I would call Infallible the better song, and certainly the more interesting song. Infallible is endlessly listenable to me. Tremor Christ might have a bigger catharsis, but Infallible is better on the whole.

As a side note, it's also a song that seems to give Matt some room to breathe, and one of his better performances with this band imo.
I like Infallible, but it's no Tremor Christ.
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harmless wrote:Matt certainly does catch his breath to breathe in this song, which is one of the things I really enjoy about it. But are we saying the drumming here is better than Tremor Christ's as well? I hope not...
No, I wouldn't call the drumming in Infallible better than TC-- not in a vacuum anyway. I just think this song is a finer construction. Tremor Christ has a lot going for it, but it bores me a little.
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McParadigm wrote:
I'm not sure I get the infatuation with Tremor Christ
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I'm going to listen to Tremor Christ and try and find it really boring, just so I know where you're coming from.
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Tremor Christ > Pearl Jam
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Thejambi wrote:Tremor Christ > Pearl Jam
This is true.
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harmless wrote:
Thejambi wrote:Tremor Christ > Pearl Jam
This is true.
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Thejambi wrote:Tremor Christ > Pearl Jam
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harmless wrote::?

I'm going to listen to Tremor Christ and try and find it really boring, just so I know where you're coming from.
Next time I'm in my car I'll put it back on to analyze. It's one I skip a lot. My truncated memories of Tremor Christ are summarized thusly: "Plodding. Boring guitar. Why bother?"
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griffinxi wrote:
harmless wrote::?

I'm going to listen to Tremor Christ and try and find it really boring, just so I know where you're coming from.
Next time I'm in my car I'll put it back on to analyze. It's one I skip a lot. My truncated memories of Tremor Christ are summarized thusly: "Plodding. Boring guitar. Why bother?"
Plodding > Poppy
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Thejambi wrote:
griffinxi wrote:
harmless wrote::?

I'm going to listen to Tremor Christ and try and find it really boring, just so I know where you're coming from.
Next time I'm in my car I'll put it back on to analyze. It's one I skip a lot. My truncated memories of Tremor Christ are summarized thusly: "Plodding. Boring guitar. Why bother?"
Plodding > Poppy
no.
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warehouse wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
griffinxi wrote:
harmless wrote::?

I'm going to listen to Tremor Christ and try and find it really boring, just so I know where you're coming from.
Next time I'm in my car I'll put it back on to analyze. It's one I skip a lot. My truncated memories of Tremor Christ are summarized thusly: "Plodding. Boring guitar. Why bother?"
Plodding > Poppy
no.
No Way > No
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Thejambi wrote:
warehouse wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
griffinxi wrote:
harmless wrote::?

I'm going to listen to Tremor Christ and try and find it really boring, just so I know where you're coming from.
Next time I'm in my car I'll put it back on to analyze. It's one I skip a lot. My truncated memories of Tremor Christ are summarized thusly: "Plodding. Boring guitar. Why bother?"
Plodding > Poppy
no.
No Way > No
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griffinxi wrote:"Plodding. Very little guitar. Keyboard. Why bother?"
= a lot of people's reactions to Infallible.
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harmless wrote:
griffinxi wrote:"Plodding. Very little guitar. Keyboard. Why bother?"
= a lot of people's reactions to Infallible.
Fair enough. One possibility I am open to is that when Tremor Christ came out, that just wasn't the sound I wanted out of this band; many albums later, my expectations have fallen away somewhat and I am just more willing to appreciate things as they come.

Still, I maintain that Tremor Christ does not really change much for its duration; it might intensify, rise and abate, but it doesn't really "travel" anywhere. In other words, if you don't dig that initial vibe, you're unlikely to change your opinion, whereas w/ Infallible there are different entry points to the song. Even if you might not dig the tone shift from Infallible's verse to the chorus, there is a dynamic quality there that Tremor Christ lacks.

On the other hand, if Tremor Christ has what you want, you're satisfied from start to finish.
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harmless wrote:
Thejambi wrote:Tremor Christ > Pearl Jam
This is true.
We had some kind of Tremor Christ is Awesome thread on the old board. I was a member.

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