Dark Matter (song)

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Ms Harmless wrote:
tree_ wrote:
mikejasond wrote:My biggest criticism of the vocal is the way Eddie says things like "DESE DAYS" instead of "these". Which is a thing he has done for years now but I still don't get why. I feel like he sounds like he has marbles in his mouth often (and in a different way than his younger vocals were unintelligible lol)
I agree. I also don't like how he makes his "L" sounds or most other sounds, for that matter
I hear "these days"
I hear "deez" too, but I like it because it harkens back to younger, gritted-teeth Ed, as was mentioned yesterday.
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Jaeti wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
tree_ wrote:
mikejasond wrote:My biggest criticism of the vocal is the way Eddie says things like "DESE DAYS" instead of "these". Which is a thing he has done for years now but I still don't get why. I feel like he sounds like he has marbles in his mouth often (and in a different way than his younger vocals were unintelligible lol)
I agree. I also don't like how he makes his "L" sounds or most other sounds, for that matter
I hear "these days"
I hear "deez" too, but I like it because it harkens back to younger, gritted-teeth Ed, as was mentioned yesterday.
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Val wrote:
Jaeti wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
tree_ wrote:
mikejasond wrote:My biggest criticism of the vocal is the way Eddie says things like "DESE DAYS" instead of "these". Which is a thing he has done for years now but I still don't get why. I feel like he sounds like he has marbles in his mouth often (and in a different way than his younger vocals were unintelligible lol)
I agree. I also don't like how he makes his "L" sounds or most other sounds, for that matter
I hear "these days"
I hear "deez" too, but I like it because it harkens back to younger, gritted-teeth Ed, as was mentioned yesterday.
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Val wrote:King Diamond to deeztroy
King Diamond does, in fact, deeztroy, particularly from about 1982 straight though 1988.
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I took a break from this song yesterday and hearing it again today, I like it better than I did after the first few listens. Funny how that works.
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Release_Me wrote:I took a break from this song yesterday and hearing it again today, I like it better than I did after the first few listens. Funny how that works.
I too feel more positively about the song today

Maybe because I got all my bellyaching about the production out of my system

There is something about the melody or cadence in the pre-chorus that gives me "Rival" vibes
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stip wrote:every pearl jam song ever (pretty much) took a few listens to settle in.


Dance had me at hello. Faithful too. Grievance also. Cropduster. Hold on. Last exit.

Wow, actually there have been quite a few.

Certainly, many have had to….marinate.
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Jorge wrote:
Release_Me wrote:I took a break from this song yesterday and hearing it again today, I like it better than I did after the first few listens. Funny how that works.
I too feel more positively about the song today

Maybe because I got all my bellyaching about the production out of my system

There is something about the melody or cadence in the pre-chorus that gives me "Rival" vibes
My son says this song is a betrayal of everything that PJ stood for :haha:

“The modernized guitars? The synth drums?! Why?!”

He’ll get over it and love it eventually, I’m confident of it
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It's still too slick for me. I wish it felt grittier. But it's grown on me
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It’s a good song.

No cringy stuff in any of those notes.

That’s what matters most to me, the melody.

DM is just right in that department.
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DDWJMUVW wrote:
stip wrote:every pearl jam song ever (pretty much) took a few listens to settle in.


Dance had me at hello. Faithful too. Grievance also. Cropduster. Hold on. Last exit.

Wow, actually there have been quite a few.

Certainly, many have had to….marinate.
On first listen of this song, it grabbed me pretty well at the outset (probably a 3.5 at that point), suffered a little at the bridge which sounded pretty basic though unexpected, and then TOOK OFF FOR THE MOON at the solo! At that point I was blissed out so much and the song has since been a 4.5 or 5 for me every time I listen. I appreciate the bridge more now.
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Val wrote:“The modernized guitars? The synth drums?! Why?!”
I'm guessing this is an example of the band having to use Wotman's guitars, amps, etc.
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Birds in Hell wrote:
Val wrote:“The modernized guitars? The synth drums?! Why?!”
I'm guessing this is an example of the band having to use Wotman's guitars, amps, etc.
Sure, or maybe the kid never heard "You Are" and thinks that this whole electrobuzz thing is new
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or the stop start riff
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Something about the delivery of the first couple of lines (before the first mention of “dark matter”) reminds me of the first couple of lines of “Save you”. It’s really not that similar, but something about the way Ed delivers or phrases the syllables.
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"oh please don't go out on me, don't go on me now"

this song isn't quite that tempo but I hear the ghost of it in the delivery
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Val wrote:
Jorge wrote:
Release_Me wrote:I took a break from this song yesterday and hearing it again today, I like it better than I did after the first few listens. Funny how that works.
I too feel more positively about the song today

Maybe because I got all my bellyaching about the production out of my system

There is something about the melody or cadence in the pre-chorus that gives me "Rival" vibes
My son says this song is a betrayal of everything that PJ stood for :haha:

“The modernized guitars? The synth drums?! Why?!”

He’ll get over it and love it eventually, I’m confident of it
My kid picked out the slick production right away, but he's heard Earthling, Every Loser, and Hackney Diamonds and he knows the Watt playbook.
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bodysnatcher wrote:Something about the delivery of the first couple of lines (before the first mention of “dark matter”) reminds me of the first couple of lines of “Save you”. It’s really not that similar, but something about the way Ed delivers or phrases the syllables.
Someone in another forum or Reddit had said "Blood+Save You" and while I don't think that's entirely accurate, energetically it's close
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Birds in Hell wrote:
Val wrote:“The modernized guitars? The synth drums?! Why?!”
I'm guessing this is an example of the band having to use Wotman's guitars, amps, etc.
why do people call him by his birth name? super weird
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