Dark Matter (song)

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Smells like a peeing contest in here

And I like it
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If this thread is a precursor to the larger album thread, just gonna avoid the entire forum when it’s released
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Now trag is claiming drum samples are being used?

Dude has the most narrow minded Albini view of music production and it’s clouding his better judgement.
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stip wrote:i am certainly capable of enjoying something more or less with better production but the songwriting and performances are so far ahead in terms of what matters to me.
this x 1000%

I grew up exchanging cassette tapes and mixes of shitty recordings of punk, rock, metal, funk bands all throughout middle school. You ever listen to a tape that had 10 different albums recorded on it? Even when those crappy tapes started to get all warbly and hissy, that didn't detract from my ability to determine which bands I really connected with. As someone that now writes and records and mixes music as a hobby, I find most of this hand wringing tiresome. You either like a song or you don't... and if you don't, then why obsess over production minutiae?
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Hey, great news, everyone: according to every account from people at the listening party this song isn’t even a highlight on the album.

:hooray:
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bluestate wrote:
stip wrote:i am certainly capable of enjoying something more or less with better production but the songwriting and performances are so far ahead in terms of what matters to me.
this x 1000%

I grew up exchanging cassette tapes and mixes of shitty recordings of punk, rock, metal, funk bands all throughout middle school. You ever listen to a tape that had 10 different albums recorded on it? Even when those crappy tapes started to get all warbly and hissy, that didn't detract from my ability to determine which bands I really connected with. As someone that now writes and records and mixes music as a hobby, I find most of this hand wringing tiresome. You either like a song or you don't... and if you don't, then why obsess over production minutiae?
Totally.

The focus on production isn’t the focusedness that people need to be focused on.

Big no-no.
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Val wrote:Hey, great news, everyone: according to every account from people at the listening party this song isn’t even a highlight of the album.

:hooray:
Well, of course... I believe there's a college course on this subject - "Pearl Jam single selection mismanagement 101"
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sure, I'd rather listen to a good song with bad production than the other way around. Production is still VERY important to me, though and annoying production can lessen my enjoyment a lot.

I think it's interesting to read about why trag dislikes the production on this. Talking about why someone does not enjoy this song is okay! This does not have to lessen anyones enjoyment of this song! This is all okay and good! You don't have to care about production!
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Mike wrote:sure, I'd rather listen to a good song with bad production than the other way around. Production is still VERY important to me, though and annoying production can lessen my enjoyment a lot.

I think it's interesting to read about why trag dislikes the production on this. Talking about why someone does not enjoy this song is okay! This does not have to lessen anyones enjoyment of this song! This is all okay and good!
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tragabigzanda wrote:I'm SO curious about this because it will answer the question: Does Wotman deliver the PT sessions with those shitty drum samples already in place, or does Ghanea add them once he starts mixing?
You can just ask him

His DMs are open on Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/serbangheneamixes/
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I will send him a link to this thread
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Image

Lets hope for the best
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Jorge wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:I'm SO curious about this because it will answer the question: Does Wotman deliver the PT sessions with those shitty drum samples already in place, or does Ghanea add them once he starts mixing?
You can just ask him

His DMs are open on Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/serbangheneamixes/
The filter on his profile pic matches his mixing style
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Mike wrote:Image

Lets hope for the best
That name has a Romanian ring to it.
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Can we please have a new thread for technical production/mix stuff, so that the album and song threads can, you know, be ABOUT THE MUSIC?
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pearl jam sucks now
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RockPusher wrote:Can we please have a new thread for technical production/mix stuff, so that the album and song threads can, you know, be ABOUT THE MUSIC?
That’ll fix nothing
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Val wrote:
Mike wrote:Image

Lets hope for the best
That name has a Romanian ring to it.
What's your thing with Romania Val?
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Mike wrote:Image

Lets hope for the best
that looks like david hasselhoff
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It is
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