Dark Matter (song)

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Ms Harmless wrote:"Dark Matter was released, that was nice"

is that a direct Trag quote or...?
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so if Trag is being completely tedious, are people allowed to tell him he's being completely tedious
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Strat wrote:Why is it not okay to compare music that was recently released from another band you love and compare the two?
Agreed. To wit: The most recent Tears for Fears album is likely still going to be a better album than DM
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Ms Harmless wrote:so if Trag is being completely tedious, are people allowed to tell him he's being completely tedious
You are also being tedious with your rule making about what we can and cannot discuss.
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Strat wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:so if Trag is being completely tedious, are people allowed to tell him he's being completely tedious
You are also being tedious with your rule making about what we can and cannot discuss.
I've not made any rules lol, I've simply told Trag he's being fucking boring
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Ms Harmless wrote:
Strat wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:so if Trag is being completely tedious, are people allowed to tell him he's being completely tedious
You are also being tedious with your rule making about what we can and cannot discuss.
I've not made any rules lol, I've simply told Trag he's being fucking boring
Well, hey...look...I mean....One person's boring is another person's fucking boring
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To be honest this entire thread is fucking boring
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also can we talk about the sampled / looped, repetitive drums on the new IDLES song?
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:How many times are you guys listening to this!? I get sick of even my favorite songs if i listen to them over and over again.
I’ve listened to it twice so far.
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bodysnatcher wrote:To be honest this entire thread is fucking boring
It's only a single song, after all
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I find discussion about the song interesting when it's, you know, about the song
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Ms Harmless wrote:I find discussion about the song interesting when it's, you know, about the song
We haven't yet squeezed every conceivable angle out of this pretty decent song?
Can it even be called a late-career highlight?
It's been squeezed so dry even stip is tired of typing about it.
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oneway23 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I find discussion about the song interesting when it's, you know, about the song
We haven't yet squeezed every conceivable angle out of this pretty decent song?
Can it even be called a late-career highlight?
It's been squeezed so dry even stip is tired of typing about it.
Impossible
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bodysnatcher wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I find discussion about the song interesting when it's, you know, about the song
We haven't yet squeezed every conceivable angle out of this pretty decent song?
Can it even be called a late-career highlight?
It's been squeezed so dry even stip is tired of typing about it.
Impossible
I now realize that I've tempted fate
We still make records to be listened to — not that everyone will listen to a record track one to twelve in a row or side A or Side B — but we still make 'em in case somebody does want to listen to it like that, that's how we make em…
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oneway23 wrote:
bodysnatcher wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I find discussion about the song interesting when it's, you know, about the song
We haven't yet squeezed every conceivable angle out of this pretty decent song?
Can it even be called a late-career highlight?
It's been squeezed so dry even stip is tired of typing about it.
Impossible
I now realize that I've tempted fate
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oneway23 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I find discussion about the song interesting when it's, you know, about the song
We haven't yet squeezed every conceivable angle out of this pretty decent song?
Can it even be called a late-career highlight?
It's been squeezed so dry even stip is tired of typing about it.
and yet, it still gives the thread its title
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Ms Harmless wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I find discussion about the song interesting when it's, you know, about the song
We haven't yet squeezed every conceivable angle out of this pretty decent song?
Can it even be called a late-career highlight?
It's been squeezed so dry even stip is tired of typing about it.
and yet, it still gives the thread its title
Yeah, well...a title can be pretty arbitrary, after all. I view it as mere suggestion
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oneway23 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I find discussion about the song interesting when it's, you know, about the song
We haven't yet squeezed every conceivable angle out of this pretty decent song?
Can it even be called a late-career highlight?
It's been squeezed so dry even stip is tired of typing about it.
Don't worry. I'm just resting.
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stip wrote:
oneway23 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:I find discussion about the song interesting when it's, you know, about the song
We haven't yet squeezed every conceivable angle out of this pretty decent song?
Can it even be called a late-career highlight?
It's been squeezed so dry even stip is tired of typing about it.
Don't worry. I'm just resting.
I would love it so much if you hyped your DM review to a feverish crescendo, only for it to be a dozen words total, and then made us all wait two to three months for the real meal.
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As the songs lyrics have settled in a bit the elements that really stick out to me are the verses, which have a slight air of mystery and discovery that I find compelling. Like a surprising self-diagnosis. I'm slightly disappointed in the Arrested the press sequence (delivery is good) just because it disrupts that flow and I like when Eddie's writing has a clear format with variations in each iteration (like the I Am Mine chorus).

But the chorus is really the highlight for me - the Vedderisms are good (it's strange these days when everyone else pays for someone else's mistakes is a very Eddie line), and the 'the blame takes shape' sequence is a nice riff on the dark matter imagery - something significant forming out of something substanceless and hidden - the invisible becoming visible, and how empowering it is to even see it, even if you can't do anything about it yet.

It's an idea that runs through a lot of their catalog - a legacy of their interest in Daniel Quinn for a while.
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