Dark Matter (song)

McParadigm · Post by **McParadigm** » Thu February 22, 2024 5:04 pm

guitar_davey wrote:
Jorge wrote:
guitar_davey wrote:
Jorge wrote:It is very weird that we're suddenly talking so much about the hottest band of 2018, and comparing them to Pearl Jam
I thought we were all psychos for listening to Dark Matter too much? I'm so utterly confused.
Who said that? I sure didn't. The comparisons to IDLES just seem totally arbitrary
They're a bit different musically, but they're a heavier rock band with a devoted cult following and a political, "all-for-one" aesthetic. I don't think it's all that arbitrary. Also pretty sure they were supposed to open for PJ until the pandemic wrecked that plan.

Kid A and Binaural were both spacey, atmospheric attempts at sonic reinvention by 90’s rock bands in the year 2000. But I still don’t think it’s reasonable or rational to use one to critique the other.

guitar_davey · Post by **guitar_davey** » Thu February 22, 2024 5:07 pm

McParadigm wrote:
guitar_davey wrote:
Jorge wrote:
guitar_davey wrote:
Jorge wrote:It is very weird that we're suddenly talking so much about the hottest band of 2018, and comparing them to Pearl Jam
I thought we were all psychos for listening to Dark Matter too much? I'm so utterly confused.
Who said that? I sure didn't. The comparisons to IDLES just seem totally arbitrary
They're a bit different musically, but they're a heavier rock band with a devoted cult following and a political, "all-for-one" aesthetic. I don't think it's all that arbitrary. Also pretty sure they were supposed to open for PJ until the pandemic wrecked that plan.
Kid A and Binaural were both spacey, atmospheric attempts at sonic reinvention by 90’s rock bands in the year 2000. But I still don’t think it’s reasonable or rational to use one to critique the other.

I just saw some IDLES chatter and got excited, that's all.

Back to the topic at hand -- Dark Matter is a terrific late-career Pearl Jam single.

tragabigzanda · Post by **tragabigzanda** » Thu February 22, 2024 5:08 pm

pearl jam sucks now

Strat · Post by **Strat** » Thu February 22, 2024 5:08 pm

McParadigm wrote:
guitar_davey wrote:
Jorge wrote:
guitar_davey wrote:
Jorge wrote:It is very weird that we're suddenly talking so much about the hottest band of 2018, and comparing them to Pearl Jam
I thought we were all psychos for listening to Dark Matter too much? I'm so utterly confused.
Who said that? I sure didn't. The comparisons to IDLES just seem totally arbitrary
They're a bit different musically, but they're a heavier rock band with a devoted cult following and a political, "all-for-one" aesthetic. I don't think it's all that arbitrary. Also pretty sure they were supposed to open for PJ until the pandemic wrecked that plan.
Kid A and Binaural were both spacey, atmospheric attempts at sonic reinvention by 90’s rock bands in the year 2000. But I still don’t think it’s reasonable or rational to use one to critique the other.

Its just two of my favorite bands that have just released new music. One is young and hungry, the other is Pearl jam that i have the deepest richest history with.

And Ament loves IDLES

Val · Post by **Val** » Thu February 22, 2024 5:09 pm

BurtReynolds wrote:Now I just want to listen to Goat all day.

The Evil Little Goat?

McParadigm · Post by **McParadigm** » Thu February 22, 2024 5:09 pm

Strat wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
guitar_davey wrote:
Jorge wrote:
guitar_davey wrote:
Jorge wrote:It is very weird that we're suddenly talking so much about the hottest band of 2018, and comparing them to Pearl Jam
I thought we were all psychos for listening to Dark Matter too much? I'm so utterly confused.
Who said that? I sure didn't. The comparisons to IDLES just seem totally arbitrary
They're a bit different musically, but they're a heavier rock band with a devoted cult following and a political, "all-for-one" aesthetic. I don't think it's all that arbitrary. Also pretty sure they were supposed to open for PJ until the pandemic wrecked that plan.
Kid A and Binaural were both spacey, atmospheric attempts at sonic reinvention by 90’s rock bands in the year 2000. But I still don’t think it’s reasonable or rational to use one to critique the other.
Its just two of my favorite bands that have just released new music. One is young and hungry, the other is Pearl jam that i have the deepest richest history with.

And Ament loves IDLES

That’s because Jeff Ament and Idles both rule. Next topic.

tree_ · Post by **tree_** » Thu February 22, 2024 5:11 pm

tragabigzanda wrote:I think the cancelled opening slot, and Jeff’s public fandom, makes the comparison even more compelling. I imagine that the push-pull that surrounds PJ’s creative process probably includes an element of Jeff thinking “I wish we could make an album like IDLES,” and Ed and Worman saying “Yeah, no.”

refuses to call him Watt, instead calls him Wotman, then now "Worman"... the disrespect never ends!

oneway23 · Post by **oneway23** » Thu February 22, 2024 5:11 pm

David Yow discussing his involvement on Ultra Mono provides a badass quote:

"I was so impressed something that aggressive could be that caring and loving and almost spiritual. They’re so positive. You get a warm feeling watching those guys, because they give a fuck. They’re the fuck givers.”

Ms Harmless · Post by **Ms Harmless** » Thu February 22, 2024 5:13 pm

I wonder how much of this IDLES love is just down to the fact that they're archetypally English

Post by **Jorge** » Thu February 22, 2024 5:13 pm

oneway23 wrote:David Yow discussing his involvement on Ultra MONO provides a badass quote:

"I was so impressed something that aggressive could be that caring and loving and almost spiritual. They’re so positive. You get a warm feeling watching those guys, because they give a fuck. They’re the fuck givers.”

Come on, I'm sure David Yow has listened to 7 Seconds and Youth of Today. How can he be all "wow I didn't realize you could be aggressive and positive"

Val · Post by **Val** » Thu February 22, 2024 5:14 pm

oneway23 wrote:David Yow discussing his involvement on Ultra Mono provides a badass quote:

"I was so impressed something that aggressive could be that caring and loving and almost spiritual. They’re so positive. You get a warm feeling watching those guys, because they give a fuck. They’re the fuck givers.”

I'm picturing a guy by the roadside with a "Free fucks" sign a-la "Free hugs"

So heartwarming

Val · Post by **Val** » Thu February 22, 2024 5:15 pm

Ms Harmless wrote:I wonder how much of this IDLES love is just down to the fact that they're archetypally English

I love King Krule.

But not because of that.

oneway23 · Post by **oneway23** » Thu February 22, 2024 5:16 pm

Jorge wrote:
oneway23 wrote:David Yow discussing his involvement on Ultra MONO provides a badass quote:

"I was so impressed something that aggressive could be that caring and loving and almost spiritual. They’re so positive. You get a warm feeling watching those guys, because they give a fuck. They’re the fuck givers.”
Come on, I'm sure David Yow has listened to 7 Seconds and Youth of Today. How can he be all "wow I didn't realize you could be aggressive and positive"

I'm sure he's also heard Embrace & Rites of Spring, but, no one was asking him about those bands.

Post by **Jorge** » Thu February 22, 2024 5:17 pm

Man, do we need an 80s hardcore thread?

oneway23 · Post by **oneway23** » Thu February 22, 2024 5:17 pm

Jorge wrote:Man, do we need an 80s hardcore thread?

Fuck yes we do, Jorge!

Coach · Post by **Coach** » Thu February 22, 2024 5:44 pm

Was able to ask tall girl (girl I am dating RN) about Dark Matter.

She said it reminded her of Gavin Rossdale and Bush.

To give some background, I don't think she's really listened to PJ or grunge or anything like that in 20 years.

E.H. Ruddock · Post by **E.H. Ruddock** » Thu February 22, 2024 5:46 pm

outstanding. She has good taste!

Ms Harmless · Post by **Ms Harmless** » Thu February 22, 2024 5:52 pm

yeah that's not a bad shout, at least she didn't say Creed

Val · Post by **Val** » Thu February 22, 2024 5:57 pm

Ms Harmless wrote:yeah that's not a bad shout, at least she didn't say Creed

Coach · Post by **Coach** » Thu February 22, 2024 6:05 pm

Ms Harmless wrote:yeah that's not a bad shout, at least she didn't say Creed

I know right

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