Dark Matter (song)

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[RockPusher]

I swear some people are allergic to earnestness

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“No hyperbole — I think this is our best work.” -Eddie Vedder

So what? You post that as if you are certain everyone shares your level of reflexive cynicism. Some of us are pretty inspired by 60 year old millionaires giving us their best effort on something we connect with. I don't think that should be surprising in a Pearl Jam fan forum.

Welcome to Red Mosquito, RockPusher

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Kill cynicism

[Aunt_Claire_Foy]

Any chance Jeff is using his 12-string on this?

If he is he's only using 2 strings.

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Any chance Jeff is using his 12-string on this?

If he is he's only using 2 strings.

He is. He posted on social media that he used a 12 on this

[Ello Sailor]

Ackchyually, the 12 string bass is four groups of three, so it would be exceedingly difficult to only use two of those strings!!1

[Ello Sailor]

This thread has now turned gross. Ew

Your boyfriend has been grossing it up for over 100 pages. What the fuck are you talking about?

[dad]

Ackchyually, the 12 string bass is four groups of three, so it would be exceedingly difficult to only use two of those strings!!1

got his ass?

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This thread has now turned gross. Ew

Your boyfriend has been grossing it up for over 100 pages. What the fuck are you talking about?

Oh we've already scolded trag.

You on the other hand ...

[dimejinky99]

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Jeff AYMENT!

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if I can offer a minor PSA for newish members and the regulars (even though the conversation moved on while I was typing this)- Red Mosquito has been, for a long time, a reflexively cynical, borderline toxic forum from the standpoint of actually wanting to enjoy and celebrate Pearl Jam. 20 years of output is grudgingly tolerated at best, and for all the shit some folks like to give fans in the primary forum, we collectively and effortlessly enjoy cutting them down as much as others enjoy praising them. And it's hair lines and physical appearances and petty stupid crap as much as it is critiques of music. We don't deserve the smug superiority we typically feel. We are not better than the 'Jamily', which is at least honest about what it represents. We're usually the opposite side of the same coin, just with better thread management and forum organization. We are half Al Bundy reminiscing over that one football game (to be fair a series of games), and half jilted lover hoping that someday the band will take us back. It can be a lot. There's a reason we have a hard time keeping new members. It can be relentless. I helped build the board, and I will disappear for months at a time.

But I love this place and the people in it. Some of the above is the price we pay for a forum that also has a lot of incredibly funny and incredibly insightful and knowledgeable people. Sometimes both at the same time. There are relationships here that have spanned decades, and it is actually a welcoming and giving and forgiving place if you can adapt to the tone. We don't censor, we welcome dissent, and we generally don't shut or shout people down, though we will sometimes exhaust them into submission.

But every now and then we hit a stretch where folks are excited and optimistic for new music, and the performative cynicism and posturing drops away, and people (or at least a majority) can actually be excited not about what Pearl Jam has done but what they might do. Here, on Red Mosquito. These moments are rare, and they don't last long, but I think it's important to savor them when they happen.

This isn't to say you have love the new thing. You don't have to pretend to like it. You don't even need to keep your mouth shut if you don't. But it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if some of the pounding snark got dialed back just a little bit and we didn't need to score points or get in the way of others experience. Just for a little while. Because after these two to four months we'll revert back to our mean for the next four years. You've got 44 out of every 48 months to shit on what Pearl Jam is doing if you want. It's okay to ease up just a little bit those other four.

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Dime just said it better

[VinylGuy]

Very well said Stip.

[dimejinky99]

Dime just said it better

New arrivals. The Jorge account has the leak to the whole album.

Tell him we sent you.

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if I can offer a minor PSA for newish members and the regulars (even though the conversation moved on while I was typing this)- Red Mosquito has been, for a long time, a reflexively cynical, borderline toxic forum from the standpoint of actually wanting to enjoy and celebrate Pearl Jam. 20 years of output is grudgingly tolerated at best, and for all the shit some folks like to give fans in the primary forum, we collectively and effortlessly enjoy cutting them down as much as others enjoy praising them. And it's hair lines and physical appearances and petty stupid crap as much as it is critiques of music. We don't deserve the smug superiority we typically feel. We are not better than the 'Jamily', which is at least honest about what it represents. We're usually the opposite side of the same coin, just with better thread management and forum organization. We are half Al Bundy reminiscing over that one football game (to be fair a series of games), and half jilted lover hoping that someday the band will take us back. It can be a lot. There's a reason we have a hard time keeping new members. It can be relentless. I helped build the board, and I will disappear for months at a time.

But I love this place and the people in it. Some of the above is the price we pay for a forum that also has a lot of incredibly funny and incredibly insightful and knowledgeable people. Sometimes both at the same time. There are relationships here that have spanned decades, and it is actually a welcoming and giving and forgiving place if you can adapt to the tone. We don't censor, we welcome dissent, and we generally don't shut or shout people down, though we will sometimes exhaust them into submission.

But every now and then we hit a stretch where folks are excited and optimistic for new music, and the performative cynicism and posturing drops away, and people (or at least a majority) can actually be excited not about what Pearl Jam has done but what they might do. Here, on Red Mosquito. These moments are rare, and they don't last long, but I think it's important to savor them when they happen.

This isn't to say you have love the new thing. You don't have to pretend to like it. You don't even need to keep your mouth shut if you don't. But it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if some of the pounding snark got dialed back just a little bit and we didn't need to score points or get in the way of others experience. Just for a little while. Because after these two to four months we'll revert back to our mean for the next four years. You've got 44 out of every 48 months to shit on what Pearl Jam is doing if you want. It's okay to ease up just a little bit those other four.

The sad thing is - most everyone loves this fucking song. Lol

[tragabigzanda]

pearl jam sucks now

[dimejinky99]

Dime just said it better

I agree with your opening salvo but I’m definitely not part of that cynicism or even conversation about pj on here.
I’ve no time for that avocado record and that’s all I said. Yeeeeaaaaarsss ago.

We have all moved on. For the better.

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Dime just said it better

I agree with your opening salvo but I’m definitely not part of that cynicism or even conversation about pj on here.
I’ve no time for that avocado record and that’s all I said. Yeeeeaaaaarsss ago.

We have all moved on. For the better.

You almost burned personal pj memorabilia two weeks ago lol

[unLEASHed]

Have we dissected the drums long enough? I vote to go back to the Foo Fighters irrelevance in music…or we could something else….

Is there any cowbell in the Dolby Atmos mix?