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Oracle gig (Corporate Shill Bracket finalist)
8
26%
7 years before a follow up to Lightning Bolt (The Band Itself Bracket finalist)
4
13%
Ed’s charity suing that little girl’s family (Way too fucking Hollywood: Ed Being Ed Bracket finalist)
9
29%
The Jamily (Other Bracket finalist)
7
23%
PJ20 opening with “Go” / Dave A. completely left out of HOF (honorable mention finalist)
3
10%
 
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I mean, part of "don't treat wait staff like trash" is that 1) they are likely poor / working class and struggling, 2) they are strangers, you don't employ them and have no previous history with them, so you have literally zero reason to feel any animosity towards them

I don't know if any of that's true for Ed's guitar tech
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It's not good to publicly denigrate your subordinates no matter how much money is in their bank account

I don't think guitar techs are swimming in money anyhow
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pearl jam sucks now
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Ms Harmless wrote:I mean, part of "don't treat wait staff like trash" is that 1) they are likely poor / working class and struggling, 2) they are strangers, you don't employ them and have no previous history with them, so you have literally zero reason to feel any animosity towards them

I don't know if any of that's true for Ed's guitar tech
Not that employing someone permits one to treat another like gum on the bottom of their shoe, of course, but, yes, it's definitely a different dynamic.
Jorge wrote:It's not good to publicly denigrate your subordinates no matter how much money is in their bank account
It's not a great look, but, we lack context, which is regularly, if not always, everything.
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I think we did get the context back when it happened. Ricky Ramone very likely incompetent. It's still a shitty way to treat a person
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But in hindsight, yeah, it's this
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Jorge wrote:It's not good to publicly denigrate your subordinates no matter how much money is in their bank account

I don't think guitar techs are swimming in money anyhow
I specified "Ed's guitar tech" because I assume he's in a better position than most guitar techs

I totally agree with your first point, I just don't think they're like for like comparisons; we wouldn't really feel any pity for either party if Ed had conflict with a band member

in any case... no sorrow for the unaccountable; Ed owes every one of us an explanation for this expanding list of heinous transgressions
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Ms Harmless wrote:
Jorge wrote: in any case... no sorrow for the unaccountable; Ed owes every one of us an explanation for this expanding list of heinous transgressions
:haha:

Clearly, each one of us has been an unassailable bastion of integrity within every moment of our lives
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Jorge wrote:I think we did get the context back when it happened. Ricky Ramone very likely incompetent. It's still a shitty way to treat a person
every one of us has been treated like shit by unhappy employers, probably; I'm not saying I like it, but it doesn't stick out to me as Top Of The List; in terms of public humiliation, the mosquito bites thing is way worse; that was verbally abusive incel behaviour
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Ms Harmless wrote:
Jorge wrote:I think we did get the context back when it happened. Ricky Ramone very likely incompetent. It's still a shitty way to treat a person
every one of us has been treated like shit by unhappy employers
Honestly...I had a boss ask me one time if I hated God "because of what happened to me."
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Jorge wrote:But in hindsight, yeah, it's this
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Stupid boob showing girls need to educate themselves so they can vote hehe you only have mosquito bites

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what if he does like to shit on little girls' heads like he joked about there?

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The Ed-bots are the worst. They are more fans of Ed than the band, and no matter what he does (musically, personally or any other way), they always back him up 100%.
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oneway23 wrote:
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Jorge wrote:I think we did get the context back when it happened. Ricky Ramone very likely incompetent. It's still a shitty way to treat a person
every one of us has been treated like shit by unhappy employers, probably; I'm not saying I like it, but it doesn't stick out to me as Top Of The List; in terms of public humiliation, the mosquito bites thing is way worse; that was verbally abusive incel behaviour
Honestly...I had a boss ask me one time if I hated God "because of what happened to me."
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Ms Harmless wrote:
Jorge wrote:I think we did get the context back when it happened. Ricky Ramone very likely incompetent. It's still a shitty way to treat a person
every one of us has been treated like shit by unhappy employers, probably; I'm not saying I like it, but it doesn't stick out to me as Top Of The List; in terms of public humiliation, the mosquito bites thing is way worse; that was verbally abusive incel behaviour
Yeah it's worse

But that smirk on his face as he refuses to hand his guitar over and instead throws it on the floor for his tech to carry away

Ugh, something about it really gives me the heebie jeebies
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Anders wrote:The Ed-bots are the worst. They are more fans of Ed than the band, and no matter what he does (musically, personally or any other way), they always back him up 100%.
I think hardcore PJ fans are embarrassing but I think hardcore fans of pretty much every artist are embarrassing, I am not convinced the Jamily is actually any worse
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Jorge wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Jorge wrote:I think we did get the context back when it happened. Ricky Ramone very likely incompetent. It's still a shitty way to treat a person
every one of us has been treated like shit by unhappy employers, probably; I'm not saying I like it, but it doesn't stick out to me as Top Of The List; in terms of public humiliation, the mosquito bites thing is way worse; that was verbally abusive incel behaviour
Yeah it's worse

But that smirk on his face as he refuses to hand his guitar over and instead throws it on the floor for his tech to carry away

Ugh, something about it really gives me the heebie jeebies
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Jorge wrote:
Anders wrote:The Ed-bots are the worst. They are more fans of Ed than the band, and no matter what he does (musically, personally or any other way), they always back him up 100%.
I think hardcore PJ fans are embarrassing but I think hardcore fans of pretty much every artist are embarrassing, I am not convinced the Jamily is actually any worse
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The tournament will be called Gaffe Full by the way, putting it out there now so nobody else tries to fucking steal it.
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Jorge wrote:
Anders wrote:The Ed-bots are the worst. They are more fans of Ed than the band, and no matter what he does (musically, personally or any other way), they always back him up 100%.
I think hardcore PJ fans are embarrassing but I think hardcore fans of pretty much every artist are embarrassing, I am not convinced the Jamily is actually any worse
There's currently a person in the Judas Priest fan community getting themselves summarily banned from every subreddit, forum, discord, and Facebook group imaginable after apparently writing a series of disturbing letters to band members and publicly picking fights with producers and other members of the bands' inner circle over a former band member.

How many among us have done so, or would do so, for Dave A....HOW MANY?!?
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While it happens for other bands and artists as well, but for PJ, the worst fans always seem very fixated on Ed.
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