Dark Matter (song)

[Ms Harmless]

Grammy Out of Control

I'm really fucked off that this post was ignored

[tragabigzanda]

pearl jam sucks now

[spike]

But in all seriousness trag, what is your listening recipe? I explained which version I was listening to on which type of speakers.

Getting all Steve Hoffman Music Forums in here.

Fill in your equipment profile, trag!

I mean, if he's gonna constantly trash how it sounds...

My critical listening skills were honed years ago, growing up with my dad's home recording studio; and then my own career in the recording industry. I've worked with both discrete and IC-based Neve consoles, Neoteks, SSL G, J, and K consoles, API, and Daking; channel strips literally from Abbey Road that were used on albums by The Beatles, Pink Floyd, etc... I've monitored on everything from KRK 5s to massive OceanWays; I got to work or attend sessions at the legendary Sear Sound, SkyLine Studios, Platinum Sound, Converse Rubber Tracks, and lots more. Have used plenty of vintage mics by Neumann, Coles, AKG, etc. I wrote for an internationally distributed recording magazine, and got to interview some notable producers, engineers, and musicians.

That's all in my past, and today I'm a fussy audiophile. I'm slowly building my "forever" setup, and right now the most impressive components are my Klipsch Forte IVs, which are highly sensitive (e.g. they don't take much power to drive, and are extremely revealing); and my Cary Audio VT-500 phono stage. There are some other decent components but nothing to write home about, but I've got a couple big purchases incoming within the next four months or so, including an LTA ZOTL 40+ Reference power amp, and a modified Decware CSP325 pre-amp. When all is said and done -- probably three years from now -- this will be about a $42K system that I've obsessively researched and am slowly saving for.

I'm not sure much of that matters. As I said, my critical listening skills were honed during my studio days, and I'd generally say that:

1. Production should elevate the music, and the musical performances of the musicians who worked the sessions. I'd make different assessments towards something like Peter Gabriel, NIN, or Olivia Rodrigo, where production elements stand to add layers of artistic intention. I tend to take a much more judicial stance on music created by straightforward "bands," where the core identity is in the musicians' personalities and their interplay with one another; I find that rarely does heavy-handed production add much of anything to these sorts of bands, and more often than not detracts from their impact.

2. I DON'T think you need to spend $40K to enjoy music, and I KNOW you can have a decent home system for under $1K. But better gear is better than worse gear.

3. I believe that audio fidelity is hugely important in the enjoyment of music, and that there is a confluence of influences -- streaming algorithms, cheap gear manufacturers that over-emphasize certain frequency ranges (looking at you Apple and Beats by Dre!), audio plug-ins and how-to videos that have created a real monoculture of production styles -- that serve to undermine the most human elements of music creation, and the way we listen to it.

I'm a pest about this stuff because first of all it's kind of fun to log on to RM and be a dick about it; it makes me laugh! But also because when Harmless conflates songwriting styles with production elements, or when stip seems lost about how someone like Serban Ghanea commands some notable awards despite my constant bitching, I really feel like "Oh god, these techno-capitalist pigs are coming to take away my ability to enjoy the finer points of music on a really deep level, and these loving fans are unwitting participants."

Okay trag finally got to show off. Maybe he can move on now.

[RockPusher]

Grammy Out of Control

I'm really fucked off that this post was ignored

I laughed

[E.H. Ruddock]

It doesn’t made the song sound better, spike. We’re still talking about the shitty production from avocado and that was 18 years ago.

[tragabigzanda]

pearl jam sucks now

[Jorge]

I’m not going to type “Ms” for the same reason I won’t type “E.H. Ruddock” or “94758UP”

Or how you called me "Jorg" all that time

[Ms Harmless]

it was good

I wish WCT posted more, she knows her shit

I don't know if I knew her, hmm

[Ms Harmless]

I’m not going to type “Ms” for the same reason I won’t type “E.H. Ruddock” or “94758UP”

Or how you called me "Jorg" all that time

[Ms Harmless]

Grammy Out of Control

I'm really fucked off that this post was ignored

I laughed

[Leatherhead]

I kinda wish this song had more Eddie.

[RockPusher]

I kinda wish this song had more Eddie.

I really dig this song, but if I had a wish, it would be more Jeff and more Mike. Jeff is such a tease with that growling bass at 1:33. Mike actually does something similar on the guitar near the end of Quick Escape. Those guys both know how to emote so amazingly with their instruments.

[Clem Halibut]

I kinda wish this song had more Eddie.

I really dig this song, but if I had a wish, it would be more Jeff and more Mike. Jeff is such a tease with that growling bass at 1:33. Mike actually does something similar on the guitar near the end of Quick Escape. Those guys both know how to emote so amazingly with their instruments.

I wish the song had more Boom

[DDWJMUVW]

one month and change in now, and I can say this rests at a firm 4 for me.

pre chorus is still the best part of the song, but I am really digging the second verse now ("eroding away...."). The dirty little bass line Jeff plays @ 1:34 is really quite nice.

I know some don't, but I find myself enjoying the bridge each time. it's simple, yet effective. Ed's right within his most effective register given his current vocal abilities.

Excited to see what we get next (and by the way, feels like we are overdue on this front...)!

[bodysnatcher]

The sound of this song makes me wonder if the YouTube video of the song clips wasn’t recording through a metal door. Maybe the dude was actually in the room with the album being played and just happened to be standing next to a metal door

[Monkey_Driven]

The sound of this song makes me wonder if the YouTube video of the song clips wasn’t recording through a metal door. Maybe the dude was actually in the room with the album being played and just happened to be standing next to a metal door

[Ms Harmless]

no, the metal door was the back door, the person was outside; I don't know how big the room was so the clips might be more representative than we initially thought, but they're definitely too distant to be in the room imo

[bodysnatcher]

That’s what YOU think, I have it in good authority that video was embedded with original FLAC studio tracks

[Ms Harmless]

Hey FLACA

[liebzz]

Hey FLACA

Now THIS is a good one.