Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

[Monkey_Driven]

I'm still hopeful there will be 4-5 good to great songs and enough live performances to elevate some of the lesser and/or poorly produced tracks.

is there a "hang in there" cat poster in your home? please be honest.

No, cats are dumb.

[Ms Harmless]

I thought Ruddo was talking about fish batter for a sec, I couldn't work it out

[tragabigzanda]

pearl jam sucks now

[tragabigzanda]

pearl jam sucks now

[Ms Harmless]

Think the best is yet to come.

We're running out of songs

Lol we've heard barely more than 10% of the album

When a batter is 0 for 3, there isn't much faith he'll have many hits later in the game!

While many here would argue that the batter has had at least 1 hit in those three at-bats, what you've described is not really how baseball works. Even Barry Bonds would have 0-3 moments. This is a small sample size problem. What I would say is, look at the career numbers, and look at recent seasons. Did you think that Gigaton (their last season) was good? Do you think that their overall career numbers are good? Finally, are you unwilling to look past their hideous uniforms (the production) to see what they are actually doing on the field?

(apologies for stretching this metaphor past its breaking point)

uniforms ≠ production. To go back to your Mona Lisa analogy, the production is the paint; the compositions are the woman.

eh, not really

[tragabigzanda]

pearl jam sucks now

[Ms Harmless]

Think the best is yet to come.

We're running out of songs

Lol we've heard barely more than 10% of the album

When a batter is 0 for 3, there isn't much faith he'll have many hits later in the game!

While many here would argue that the batter has had at least 1 hit in those three at-bats, what you've described is not really how baseball works. Even Barry Bonds would have 0-3 moments. This is a small sample size problem. What I would say is, look at the career numbers, and look at recent seasons. Did you think that Gigaton (their last season) was good? Do you think that their overall career numbers are good? Finally, are you unwilling to look past their hideous uniforms (the production) to see what they are actually doing on the field?

(apologies for stretching this metaphor past its breaking point)

uniforms ≠ production. To go back to your Mona Lisa analogy, the production is the paint; the compositions are the woman.

eh, not really

yes, really

the production is the varnish / gloss / fixative

the paint and the woman are one

[E.H. Ruddock]

I'm still hopeful there will be 4-5 good to great songs and enough live performances to elevate some of the lesser and/or poorly produced tracks.

is there a "hang in there" cat poster in your home? please be honest.

No, cats are dumb.

ok shots fired

[Ms Harmless]

I love artful production, it's a gift, but it's not a dealbreaker for me if production is purely functional

[tragabigzanda]

pearl jam sucks now

[Ms Harmless]

Think the best is yet to come.

We're running out of songs

Lol we've heard barely more than 10% of the album

When a batter is 0 for 3, there isn't much faith he'll have many hits later in the game!

While many here would argue that the batter has had at least 1 hit in those three at-bats, what you've described is not really how baseball works. Even Barry Bonds would have 0-3 moments. This is a small sample size problem. What I would say is, look at the career numbers, and look at recent seasons. Did you think that Gigaton (their last season) was good? Do you think that their overall career numbers are good? Finally, are you unwilling to look past their hideous uniforms (the production) to see what they are actually doing on the field?

(apologies for stretching this metaphor past its breaking point)

uniforms ≠ production. To go back to your Mona Lisa analogy, the production is the paint; the compositions are the woman.

eh, not really

yes, really

the production is the varnish / gloss / fixative

the paint and the woman are one

No ma'am. The woman and the composition are the idea. Everything else is a tool used for committing the idea to a medium.

composition and "idea" are two completely different things!!

[Ms Harmless]

it really sounds to me like you prize production over and above what the band actually did

[tragabigzanda]

pearl jam sucks now

[Ms Harmless]

what the band played was the craft, the painting

making that painting presentable, preservable, and another third p... that's a different craft

craft 2. might be shit, but if I can still see craft 1. through it, I'm happy

[Ms Harmless]

it really sounds to me like you prize production over and above what the band actually did

part-and-parcel with, not over and above

fair, thank you for your honesty

I feel differently, but I now understand your POV better

[E.H. Ruddock]

wait, where does the easel fall in all of this?

[Ms Harmless]

for me, performance is like 80% of the product; that means I can tolerate a lot of different production approaches, even if I prefer some over others

[Ms Harmless]

wait, where does the easel fall in all of this?

it doesn't, as long as it's made by Winsor & Newton

[E.H. Ruddock]

Think the best is yet to come.

We're running out of songs

Lol we've heard barely more than 10% of the album

When a batter is 0 for 3, there isn't much faith he'll have many hits later in the game!

While many here would argue that the batter has had at least 1 hit in those three at-bats, what you've described is not really how baseball works. Even Barry Bonds would have 0-3 moments. This is a small sample size problem. What I would say is, look at the career numbers, and look at recent seasons. Did you think that Gigaton (their last season) was good? Do you think that their overall career numbers are good? Finally, are you unwilling to look past their hideous uniforms (the production) to see what they are actually doing on the field?

(apologies for stretching this metaphor past its breaking point)

My dad is going to be really angry when he finds out I don't understand how baseball works.

[tragabigzanda]

pearl jam sucks now