Dark Matter: Official Album Thread

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I usually listen to the first 6 tracks on Gigaton then lose interest during the back half. The biggest difference between Gig and DM is that, on DM, you are more likely to be rewarded by listening to the end.
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Over time, I think the biggest difference between Gigaton and DM will be the translation to live shows.

Gig is a studio album IMO, DM is a live album.

Many DM songs soar into Betterman/Alive type jam endings ripe for improv and fresh tags to be applied by Ed.
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EBowie wrote:I really really like Gigaton but there's a couple issues I have with it. The album ending with essentially 3 slow songs in a row being the biggest. Comes Then Goes, Retrograde and River Cross are a slog all back to back. I would ditch the last 2 and just end the album on Comes Then Goes.
My memory sucks but i vaguely remember reading in some of the interviews around its release that Josh Evans had kind of envisioned Retrograde as the albums closer but that when Ed came in with River Cross they kind of had to put it there. Personally im happy the way it is, love River Cross. If anything i would take out ND and TTLW and sub in Get It Back.
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Hatfield wrote:
Coach wrote:At the end of the day, I'll be going to the movies tonight by myself to have a listen.
:lol:

It's been so long since I let my freak flag fly, I don't know what my wife will say when I suggest I go hear the new PJ album by myself at a theater tonight.....but I'm gonna do just that! :bammer:
It's good, clean fun. Feeds the soul. Enjoy!
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Thurman Murman wrote:
EBowie wrote:I really really like Gigaton but there's a couple issues I have with it. The album ending with essentially 3 slow songs in a row being the biggest. Comes Then Goes, Retrograde and River Cross are a slog all back to back. I would ditch the last 2 and just end the album on Comes Then Goes.
My memory sucks but i vaguely remember reading in some of the interviews around its release that Josh Evans had kind of envisioned Retrograde as the albums closer but that when Ed came in with River Cross they kind of had to put it there. Personally im happy the way it is, love River Cross. If anything i would take out ND and TTLW and sub in Get It Back.
I hear ya but the problem with taking out ND and TTLW is the album already is pretty skimpy on fast/hard songs imo.
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Apparently the CD is on ebay....that HAS to mean a proper leak is near, right?

edit - Oh i guess these are just online stores...i clearly havent used ebay in ages.
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One of my favorite things about setting Sun is the not resolving the final chord progression. My ears want that third chord, but it never comes and it works so perfectly.
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Django Butterworth wrote:One of my favorite things about setting Sun is the not resolving the final chord progression. My ears want that third chord, but it never comes and it works so perfectly.
Noticed this as well. I wonder if it was a conscious choice or if it just happened in the moment when the song was first written and arranged.
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Excited to hear Setting Sun in the theater vs. iPhone leak.

Still love crying baby, though.
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EBowie wrote:I really really like Gigaton but there's a couple issues I have with it. The album ending with essentially 3 slow songs in a row being the biggest. Comes Then Goes, Retrograde and River Cross are a slog all back to back. I would ditch the last 2 and just end the album on Comes Then Goes.
Or perhaps add in Get It Back to break it up a bit...

I wasn't paying attention - what was the RM consensus on Get It Back?
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Juvenal wrote:
EBowie wrote:I really really like Gigaton but there's a couple issues I have with it. The album ending with essentially 3 slow songs in a row being the biggest. Comes Then Goes, Retrograde and River Cross are a slog all back to back. I would ditch the last 2 and just end the album on Comes Then Goes.
Or perhaps add in Get It Back to break it up a bit...

I wasn't paying attention - what was the RM consensus on Get It Back?
Well-liked to loved, I'd say.
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Juvenal wrote:
EBowie wrote:I really really like Gigaton but there's a couple issues I have with it. The album ending with essentially 3 slow songs in a row being the biggest. Comes Then Goes, Retrograde and River Cross are a slog all back to back. I would ditch the last 2 and just end the album on Comes Then Goes.
Or perhaps add in Get It Back to break it up a bit...

I wasn't paying attention - what was the RM consensus on Get It Back?
I thought it was an interesting song with a classic Pearl Jam outro. 3.5 stars.
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Juvenal wrote:
EBowie wrote:I really really like Gigaton but there's a couple issues I have with it. The album ending with essentially 3 slow songs in a row being the biggest. Comes Then Goes, Retrograde and River Cross are a slog all back to back. I would ditch the last 2 and just end the album on Comes Then Goes.
Or perhaps add in Get It Back to break it up a bit...

I wasn't paying attention - what was the RM consensus on Get It Back?
It’s Lost Dogs material
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Reminds me of Riot Act... it would have worked nicely on Gigaton
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bluestate wrote:Reminds me of Riot Act... it would have worked nicely on Gigaton
Yes, because some of the songs on Gigaton aren’t even Lost Dogs material
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You all sure do have a lot of time to post during the day. Do you have night jobs?
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:You all sure do have a lot of time to post during the day. Do you have night jobs?
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oneway23 wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:You all sure do have a lot of time to post during the day. Do you have night jobs?
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