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Waiting for Stevie

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I need to listen to more The Cure
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yes you do :)
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I can’t place my finger on why but this song sounds more No Code/Yield to me. Except that outright outro is basically Parting Ways
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I think I'm least attached to this song, Even though knowing full well this is everyone I, we, they need from Pearl Jam and the complete anchor of the album....


Lost myself. What?

Oh, yea - I don't know the words quite well at all. This is the one that his vocals are just mixed a bit back so I not hear random phrases here and there.

Also, I'm afraid this song is everything and im not ready
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I'm not sure I'll ever be able to move beyond this song being built on Wotman riff (not Stone, not Jeff, etc.) but, even accounting for that, this one really isn't my kind of thing. I've never been hanging out for a return to this kind of sound from the band.

I think it's also the song that is most hampered by the mixing/mastering choices. It should have movement and dynamics but instead it's like a solid block of noise, banging you in the head.
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i am looking forward to seeing what trag does to this with his project
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Strat wrote:I think I'm least attached to this song, Even though knowing full well this is everyone I, we, they need from Pearl Jam and the complete anchor of the album....


Lost myself. What?

Oh, yea - I don't know the words quite well at all. This is the one that his vocals are just mixed a bit back so I not hear random phrases here and there.

Also, I'm afraid this song is everything and im not ready
try this one on the visualizer which gives lyrics. they are buried but the best ones on the album methinks (and a really cool visualizer to boot)
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Here you go strat, making it easy. It's a great visualizer watch with the images matching the scope and feel of the song. The pacing of the lyrics work well as captions
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This has solidified itself as my #1. It’s a monster.
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on an album of great songs i keep coming back here. its not like its a lead single and i lack options. and it keeps evoking emotional reactions - not ‘here is an awesome song i love hearing. it’s ‘i am having a moment’
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Strat wrote:Also, I'm afraid this song is everything and im not ready
I think it might be this.
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Birds in Hell wrote:I'm not sure I'll ever be able to move beyond this song being built on Wotman riff (not Stone, not Jeff, etc.)
It sounds like the riff is just as much Eddie's as it is Watt's
We were sitting around with guitars and waiting, and I said, I have this idea. Check it out. He says, that is so fucking weird, because I’ve had this riff for literally years — since albums and albums and albums and albums ago. He showed it to me, and it was almost exactly the same. So, they both kind of melded into each other. We presented that to everyone in the first week, and they all wrote their parts and how the sections would move. It really only became a thing because the thing I showed Ed reminded him of something he’d written that was very similar.
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:I can’t place my finger on why but this song sounds more No Code/Yield to me. Except that outright outro is basically Parting Ways
there is some given to fly/in hiding in it. it’s a full stop power anthem. not sure about a no code connection. but if those are ‘your’ albums i think drawing that connection is part of this song’s magic
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Farmer John wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:I'm not sure I'll ever be able to move beyond this song being built on Wotman riff (not Stone, not Jeff, etc.)
It sounds like the riff is just as much Eddie's as it is Watt's
We were sitting around with guitars and waiting, and I said, I have this idea. Check it out. He says, that is so fucking weird, because I’ve had this riff for literally years — since albums and albums and albums and albums ago. He showed it to me, and it was almost exactly the same. So, they both kind of melded into each other. We presented that to everyone in the first week, and they all wrote their parts and how the sections would move. It really only became a thing because the thing I showed Ed reminded him of something he’d written that was very similar.
Ehh, sounds like some post hoc fudging to me.

In any event, it was undeniably sparked from Wotman's musical idea.
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Birds in Hell wrote:
Farmer John wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:I'm not sure I'll ever be able to move beyond this song being built on Wotman riff (not Stone, not Jeff, etc.)
It sounds like the riff is just as much Eddie's as it is Watt's
We were sitting around with guitars and waiting, and I said, I have this idea. Check it out. He says, that is so fucking weird, because I’ve had this riff for literally years — since albums and albums and albums and albums ago. He showed it to me, and it was almost exactly the same. So, they both kind of melded into each other. We presented that to everyone in the first week, and they all wrote their parts and how the sections would move. It really only became a thing because the thing I showed Ed reminded him of something he’d written that was very similar.
Ehh, sounds like some post hoc fudging to me.

In any event, it was undeniably sparked from Wotman's musical idea.
which inspired Ed to finally make a song out of that riff he's had for years and years ;)
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Farmer John wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
Farmer John wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:I'm not sure I'll ever be able to move beyond this song being built on Wotman riff (not Stone, not Jeff, etc.)
It sounds like the riff is just as much Eddie's as it is Watt's
We were sitting around with guitars and waiting, and I said, I have this idea. Check it out. He says, that is so fucking weird, because I’ve had this riff for literally years — since albums and albums and albums and albums ago. He showed it to me, and it was almost exactly the same. So, they both kind of melded into each other. We presented that to everyone in the first week, and they all wrote their parts and how the sections would move. It really only became a thing because the thing I showed Ed reminded him of something he’d written that was very similar.
Ehh, sounds like some post hoc fudging to me.

In any event, it was undeniably sparked from Wotman's musical idea.
which inspired Ed to finally make a song out of that riff he's had for years and years ;)
Yea, weird hang up Spenno but i get it. Pearl jam is a very...fragile thing to us all and that feels like a stranger entering our domain.

Regardless, it sounds and feels very pearl jam. And who knows what that original idea sounded like....
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One thing I think about when this song is on: How our smiles now are just likes theirs were when they realized what they'd done.
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Strat wrote:
Farmer John wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
Farmer John wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:I'm not sure I'll ever be able to move beyond this song being built on Wotman riff (not Stone, not Jeff, etc.)
It sounds like the riff is just as much Eddie's as it is Watt's
We were sitting around with guitars and waiting, and I said, I have this idea. Check it out. He says, that is so fucking weird, because I’ve had this riff for literally years — since albums and albums and albums and albums ago. He showed it to me, and it was almost exactly the same. So, they both kind of melded into each other. We presented that to everyone in the first week, and they all wrote their parts and how the sections would move. It really only became a thing because the thing I showed Ed reminded him of something he’d written that was very similar.
Ehh, sounds like some post hoc fudging to me.

In any event, it was undeniably sparked from Wotman's musical idea.
which inspired Ed to finally make a song out of that riff he's had for years and years ;)
Yea, weird hang up Spenno but i get it. Pearl jam is a very...fragile thing to us all and that feels like a stranger entering our domain.

Regardless, it sounds and feels very pearl jam. And who knows what that original idea sounded like....
Like the chorus to I Got Shit/Cinnamon Girl. Those first two chords are directly from that. Then the third chord ventures off and it becomes its own entity.

And the thing is, we don’t have any idea how many tunes off this record had their beginnings with a Wotman riff or idea. And we probably wouldn’t like the answer if we did.
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wease wrote:
Strat wrote:
Farmer John wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:
Farmer John wrote:
Birds in Hell wrote:I'm not sure I'll ever be able to move beyond this song being built on Wotman riff (not Stone, not Jeff, etc.)
It sounds like the riff is just as much Eddie's as it is Watt's
We were sitting around with guitars and waiting, and I said, I have this idea. Check it out. He says, that is so fucking weird, because I’ve had this riff for literally years — since albums and albums and albums and albums ago. He showed it to me, and it was almost exactly the same. So, they both kind of melded into each other. We presented that to everyone in the first week, and they all wrote their parts and how the sections would move. It really only became a thing because the thing I showed Ed reminded him of something he’d written that was very similar.
Ehh, sounds like some post hoc fudging to me.

In any event, it was undeniably sparked from Wotman's musical idea.
which inspired Ed to finally make a song out of that riff he's had for years and years ;)
Yea, weird hang up Spenno but i get it. Pearl jam is a very...fragile thing to us all and that feels like a stranger entering our domain.

Regardless, it sounds and feels very pearl jam. And who knows what that original idea sounded like....
Like the chorus to I Got Shit/Cinnamon Girl. Those first two chords are directly from that. Then the third chord ventures off and it becomes its own entity.

And the thing is, we don’t have any idea how many tunes off this record had their beginnings with a Wotman riff or idea. And we probably wouldn’t like the answer if we did.
and, in the 90s (for example) we just didn't have access to that sort of information to nearly the extent that we do now; we don't know anything about the origins of some of our favourite songs except that they are Pearl Jam's songs, whatever that might mean (it's the brand stuck on them when they're finished)
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And look, what works about this song is not the riff (great riff). It is how they riff is played, the history it carries, and everything else everyone is doing in this song. WFS is a perfect performance that just happened to be captured in a studio take
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