Upper Hand

General Pearl Jam discussion.
Post Reply

Upper Hand

5 Stars
64
62%
4 Stars
31
30%
3 Stars
6
6%
2 Stars
2
2%
1 Star
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 103

User avatar
stip
The worst
Posts: 42946
Joined: Thu December 13, 2012 6:31 pm

Re: Upper Hand

Post by stip »

well start, damn it. I have needs.
Ms Harmless
She / Her
Posts: 13605
Joined: Sun January 26, 2020 12:10 pm
Twitter: https://twitter.com/
Location: Warwickshire, UK

Re: Upper Hand

Post by Ms Harmless »

stip wrote:well start, damn it. I have needs.
that's what she said
DeeDee
likes rhythmic things that butt up against each other
Posts: 520
Joined: Tue September 17, 2013 4:09 pm
Location: Spain

Re: Upper Hand

Post by DeeDee »

It gets better with every listen.
User avatar
Angus
likes rhythmic things that butt up against each other
Posts: 587
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 7:18 pm
Location: Alone in a corridor

Re: Upper Hand

Post by Angus »

I love this song so much!
guitar_davey
AnalLog
Posts: 1869
Joined: Mon July 15, 2013 6:09 pm
Location: Ottawa, Canada

Re: Upper Hand

Post by guitar_davey »

Rank the PJ slow build intros..

Upper Hand
Severed Hand
Inside Job...
User avatar
dprival78
Future Drummer
Posts: 2145
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 4:13 pm
Location: CT

Re: Upper Hand

Post by dprival78 »

i'm still just not feeling the transition to the outro. it feels like it needs to do some more work before it gets there.

and i'm not convinced that an ending like that was the direction the song should've gone in anyway
Ms Harmless
She / Her
Posts: 13605
Joined: Sun January 26, 2020 12:10 pm
Twitter: https://twitter.com/
Location: Warwickshire, UK

Re: Upper Hand

Post by Ms Harmless »

dprival78 wrote:i'm still just not feeling the transition to the outro. it feels like it needs to do some more work before it gets there.

and i'm not convinced that an ending like that was the direction the song should've gone in anyway
it needs one more go-around of the chord structure, maybe a break in the music, a fill, something

never mind
DeeDee
likes rhythmic things that butt up against each other
Posts: 520
Joined: Tue September 17, 2013 4:09 pm
Location: Spain

Re: Upper Hand

Post by DeeDee »

I can't believe they wrote this song in 2024.

One of the best they've ever written.
User avatar
Strat
Waiting for HVAC Repairman
Posts: 35407
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 3:48 pm
Location: Twin City Kisses

Re: Upper Hand

Post by Strat »

i think one of the best parts of this song and record is that transition to the outro....but not because i love the outro...

I love the way Ed holds and pulls and drags that last "haaaaayaaaand" right before it takes off. Great space filling. Very old school Ed. He sounds so great.
DeeDee
likes rhythmic things that butt up against each other
Posts: 520
Joined: Tue September 17, 2013 4:09 pm
Location: Spain

Re: Upper Hand

Post by DeeDee »

I'm guessing Andrew Watt has helped them a lot with the transitions. Melodically and from a song's structure point of view, this record is outstanding.
Ms Harmless
She / Her
Posts: 13605
Joined: Sun January 26, 2020 12:10 pm
Twitter: https://twitter.com/
Location: Warwickshire, UK

Re: Upper Hand

Post by Ms Harmless »

Strat wrote:i think one of the best parts of this song and record is that transition to the outro....but not because i love the outro...

I love the way Ed holds and pulls and drags that last "haaaaayaaaand" right before it takes off. Great space filling. Very old school Ed. He sounds so great.
I have zero issues with going into the outro at the point, that's awesome, but I do think Matt goes into that doubled-up version of the outro (snares on 2 and 4) a tiny bit too early
User avatar
dprival78
Future Drummer
Posts: 2145
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 4:13 pm
Location: CT

Re: Upper Hand

Post by dprival78 »

Ms Harmless wrote:
Strat wrote:i think one of the best parts of this song and record is that transition to the outro....but not because i love the outro...

I love the way Ed holds and pulls and drags that last "haaaaayaaaand" right before it takes off. Great space filling. Very old school Ed. He sounds so great.
I have zero issues with going into the outro at the point, that's awesome, but I do think Matt goes into that doubled-up version of the outro (snares on 2 and 4) a tiny bit too early
agreed. i'm considering the outro to be the point where they go double time

and i'm just like.. woah woah.. hold on a second guys
Ms Harmless
She / Her
Posts: 13605
Joined: Sun January 26, 2020 12:10 pm
Twitter: https://twitter.com/
Location: Warwickshire, UK

Re: Upper Hand

Post by Ms Harmless »

dprival78 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:
Strat wrote:i think one of the best parts of this song and record is that transition to the outro....but not because i love the outro...

I love the way Ed holds and pulls and drags that last "haaaaayaaaand" right before it takes off. Great space filling. Very old school Ed. He sounds so great.
I have zero issues with going into the outro at the point, that's awesome, but I do think Matt goes into that doubled-up version of the outro (snares on 2 and 4) a tiny bit too early
agreed. i'm considering the outro to be the point where they go double time

and i'm just like.. woah woah.. hold on a second guys
haha yep, but it's fine

it's frustrating because it's those tiny little arrangement nuances that I used to think they did perfectly
User avatar
Strat
Waiting for HVAC Repairman
Posts: 35407
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 3:48 pm
Location: Twin City Kisses

Re: Upper Hand

Post by Strat »

10/5

Fuck me.
User avatar
Strat
Waiting for HVAC Repairman
Posts: 35407
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 3:48 pm
Location: Twin City Kisses

Re: Upper Hand

Post by Strat »

McCready's outro solo is very J Mascis
User avatar
Hatfield
AnalLog
Posts: 1512
Joined: Fri January 04, 2013 8:54 pm

Re: Upper Hand

Post by Hatfield »

I love the conversation about Upper Hand from Zane, but wished he asked a few more questions about this one. I'd love to hear Ed talk about the lyrics and how the whole thing came together.
Fattie_Vedder
likes rhythmic things that butt up against each other
Posts: 806
Joined: Wed February 26, 2020 8:43 am

Re: Upper Hand

Post by Fattie_Vedder »

Edit: this time with actual link

Isolated guitar (and with it, the piano) at the end of upper hand.

https://youtu.be/H_-M3iliZuI?si=[yt]mpeVIUhGvWAwlce2[/yt]
User avatar
Buby
Future Drummer
Posts: 2780
Joined: Fri January 04, 2013 9:08 pm
Location: West of Deedle

Re: Upper Hand

Post by Buby »

Fattie_Vedder wrote:Edit: this time with actual link

Isolated guitar (and with it, the piano) at the end of upper hand.

:peace:
User avatar
stip
The worst
Posts: 42946
Joined: Thu December 13, 2012 6:31 pm

Re: Upper Hand

Post by stip »

how long has that piano been there?!
Ms Harmless
She / Her
Posts: 13605
Joined: Sun January 26, 2020 12:10 pm
Twitter: https://twitter.com/
Location: Warwickshire, UK

Re: Upper Hand

Post by Ms Harmless »

stip wrote:how long has that piano been there?!
the whole time!
Post Reply