Wreckage

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Wreckage

5 stars
57
48%
4 stars
47
39%
3 stars
5
4%
2 stars
7
6%
1 star
3
3%
 
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stip wrote:In part because it's not really just barrelling through a cathartic emotional space, and it's arguably the least engaging part (vocally) on a song with incredibly strong vocals throughout
Sometimes it's OK to have something exist for its own sake.

Many bands in the 60s, such as the Yardbirds, The Animals, and countless other R&B groups of the era, often ended songs with what were then called "rave-ups."

I'd put this firmly in this category.

They (Band? Wottmunn?) were clearly searching for a new live vehicle for a Daughter/Betterman-style crowd moment for the shows. It'll work.
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only thing this song is lacking is a good series of heeeee-heeeeeeee's
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dprival78 wrote:only thing this song is lacking is a good series of heeeee-heeeeeeee's
:lol:

Oh, give it a few shows...They're comin'
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the ending is fine, this is the kind of non-issue we have when Pearl Jam are writing good songs
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I’ve changed my mind. Stip is wrong.

I find that I enjoy how much the last minute of the song sounds like a victory lap. Like “ha ha, motherfuckers. we really just did that shit.”

It’s not the only good victory lap on the album, either. One is fun but three’s a theme, you know?
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Ms Harmless wrote:the ending is fine, this is the kind of non-issue we have when Pearl Jam are writing good songs
Indeed.
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look, this is hardly a deal breaker. this is a 4.5 star song for me. its just why it isnt a five.

McP’s wife understands, at least
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Team "Outro length is good". This never felt to long for me
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oh, stip with another bad take? Shocking!
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Strat wrote:oh, stip with another bad take? Shocking!
I'm beginning to think he's actually Brendan O'Brien.
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It's too long. It's like listening to Bubba list out all the things you can do to shrimp in Forrest Gump. You can comb the wreckage, fall in the wreckage, deep fry the wreckage.
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Ledbetterdays wrote:It's too long. It's like listening to Bubba list out all the things you can do to shrimp in Forrest Gump. You can comb the wreckage, fall in the wreckage, deep fry the wreckage.
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Monkey_Driven wrote:
Strat wrote:oh, stip with another bad take? Shocking!
I'm beginning to think he's actually Brendan O'Brien.
so Stip faded out Lightning Bolt too early? makes sense
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stip wrote:In part because it's not really just barrelling through a cathartic emotional space, and it's arguably the least engaging part (vocally) on a song with incredibly strong vocals throughout
I disagree heavily with both of these. (It feels very cathartic and engaging to me, especially Eddie's big HOOOOOOLding OooooOOOOOOOn).

Pearl Jam songs are always the only songs where I can sing the random outros, they are always so memorable, and this is one of them IMO
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For me, the last minute of this is the clear best moment of the record. I get that it's probably going to be this anthemic moment live, but I think the most winning part of it is the melancholy baked into how it sounds.
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stip wrote:It's the only extended outro I think goes on too long.
it's not long enough!


I would take a bit longer and then it fades out.

I love a good fade out. It gives a song an eternal quality
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fuck fade outs!
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Wreckage should last 25 minutes, and crescendo until it's loud and aggressive enough that we hear the band smashing all of their instruments; Watt adds a nuclear explosion to the end on Pro-Tools or whatever
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Ms Harmless wrote:Wreckage should last 25 minutes, and crescendo until it's loud and aggressive enough that we hear the band smashing all of their instruments; Watt adds a nuclear explosion to the end on Pro-Tools or whatever
You want my bloody valentine to cover Wreckage?
So do I....so do I
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oneway23 wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:Wreckage should last 25 minutes, and crescendo until it's loud and aggressive enough that we hear the band smashing all of their instruments; Watt adds a nuclear explosion to the end on Pro-Tools or whatever
You want my bloody valentine to cover Wreckage?
So do I....so do I
:hooray:
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