LB being a better album than Vitalogy is reasonable?

[harmless]

[Jorge]

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Don't be a jackass.

[ABNorman]

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Don't be a jackass.

I honestly thought it was some weird plastic robot thing.

[harmless]

I like LB more than no code but will probably never listen to it as much as no code

My goodness, that's a bizarre statement.

As much as im loving infallible, its no where near as good as tremor Christ

This outlandish claim also caught my attention. Absurdity of the highest order!

[ABNorman]

The one thing that pisses me off about Vitalogy: On an album with a song called "Whipping", why the hell is the whip sound on Satan's Bed? 1/5

[Norah]

Because it sounds better there.

[malice]

A legend is born.

Tolkien describes the reproduction of saruman's uruk-hai as "they worm themselves like maggots out of the ground"

somehow, this is better than the adjective "born"

[spike]

Everything on Vitalogy > Everything on Lightning Bolt

the vocals, for starters.

[stip]

I like LB more than no code but will probably never listen to it as much as no code

My goodness, that's a bizarre statement.

No Code has 16 years on lightning bolt. that's a lot of listens to make up.

[Jorge]

You can do it. I believe in you.

[MemoFromTurner]

Everything on Vitalogy > Everything on Lightning Bolt

the vocals, for starters.

Followed closely by the guitar sound.

Also,

Foxymophandlemomma > Future Days

[Sgt. Crackpot]

I like LB more than no code but will probably never listen to it as much as no code

My goodness, that's a bizarre statement.

No Code has 16 years on lightning bolt. that's a lot of listens to make up.

Spot on. I'm not sure I could ever out play No Code, with any album. It still comes out several times a year and gets many spins. So the listens just keeping racking up. I want to be buried with that album.

[fishbob]

I've always thought Vitalogy was the most overrated PJ album by far

[Fuzzcharger]

I like LB more than no code but will probably never listen to it as much as no code

My goodness, that's a bizarre statement.

No Code has 16 years on lightning bolt. that's a lot of listens to make up.

Spot on. I'm not sure I could ever out play No Code, with any album. It still comes out several times a year and gets many spins. So the listens just keeping racking up. I want to be buried with that album.

Stip only listens to Ten, Backspacer and Sirens. I find it hard to believe that he listens to No Code for any other purpose than creating content for his album reviews.

I will however admit that I read the original statement as being from this time period on, not a life time achievement thing

[twoheadedboy]

1. Last Exit
2. Spin The Black Circle
3. Not For You
4. Tremor Christ
5. Nothingman
6. Whipping

8. Corduroy
9. Bugs
10. Satan's Bed
11. Better Man

13. Immortality

I'm posting this tracklist to actually focus on the idea that LB could be better than Vitalogy. I challenge you to find any 3 LB songs better than any 3 of those listed Vitalogy songs. Take Bugs out and you have a better 10 songs than "Ten". In fact, you can't pick 3 songs off the last 2 albums better than the worst 3 songs out of that group. This thread hurts my brain.

I'm still missing the Quadrophenia-esque album they had in them sometime between 2000 - 2005. When the band leaves off Sad because it's "too pop" while also leaving off Fatal, Down, and Of The Earth during this time, you know their self-editing abilities and vision have dropped into Billy Corgan and Weezer-land (who frequently scrap their best material in favor of far substandard stuff). If I'm in Pearl Jam and those three tracks don't have a place on the applicable album, I change the album.

[Lament]

I've always thought Vitalogy was the most overrated PJ album by far

In some other thread last week or so (I can't remember which one) I tried to make the case that Vitalogy is actually the most underrated Pearl Jam album by far. But I think we all got distracted by an awesome gif or something and the discussion never took off.

[fishbob]

I've always thought Vitalogy was the most overrated PJ album by far

In some other thread last week or so (I can't remember which one) I tried to make the case that Vitalogy is actually the most underrated Pearl Jam album by far. But I think we all got distracted by an awesome gif or something and the discussion never took off.

I dunno, I find it conceptually interesting but not very exciting otherwise

[McParadigm]

When the band leaves off Sad because it's "too pop" while also leaving off Fatal, Down, and Of The Earth during this time, you know their self-editing abilities and vision have dropped into Billy Corgan and Weezer-land (who frequently scrap their best material in favor of far substandard stuff). If I'm in Pearl Jam and those three tracks don't have a place on the applicable album, I change the album.

You bring up a good point, in that the band was clearly writing/abandoning enough tracks for there to have been another 2000's album, if they didnt obsess over 1) not releasing a record until they were ready to commit to a trillion live dates, and 2) making each album a "statement" or "event" of some kind.

Plenty of artists build records around ideas that didnt make the previous records. These guys hold over ideas all the time. A 2007 follow-up to s/t with decent production and the broader palatte suggested by the leaked tracks/OTE could have been really, really cool.

[fishbob]

When the band leaves off Sad because it's "too pop" while also leaving off Fatal, Down, and Of The Earth during this time, you know their self-editing abilities and vision have dropped into Billy Corgan and Weezer-land (who frequently scrap their best material in favor of far substandard stuff). If I'm in Pearl Jam and those three tracks don't have a place on the applicable album, I change the album.

You bring up a good point, in that the band was clearly writing/abandoning enough tracks for there to have been another 2000's album, if they didnt obsess over 1) not releasing a record until they were ready to commit to a trillion live dates, and 2) making each album a "statement" or "event" of some kind.

Plenty of artists build records around ideas that didnt make the previous records. These guys hold over ideas all the time. A 2007 follow-up to s/t with decent production and the broader palatte suggested by the leaked tracks/OTE could have been really, really cool.

It's not like they owed it to anyone to make a record like Backspacer (whether you like it or not, it was a weirdly ridiculous move)

[McParadigm]

Oh, I don't know. I like the idea of a short, less moody Pearl Jam album in theory. I think it might have played out better if it wasnt the only new music we got 2006-2013.